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Nagoyaguy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Monkey-man;

Sorry I wasn't clear. The "per koma" salary is monthly. So, if you teach 12 koma at a low paying uni, your monthly salary is 12 times 25,000 yen, or 300,000. The good part is that you are paid over 12 months, even though you only work for eight.

Glenski;
Not sure about Hokkaido, but here in Aichi, the system is pretty informal. Most people (those at private unis anyway) know each other and who is available. As for advertising, my school does "advertise" vacancies. but in a rather obscure location on the school's homepage. In Japanese only, even for jobs that require a native level of English. It really cuts down on the busywork and lets the school basically pick who they want with minimum fuss.

That's why I said, and I think you agree, that the best option is to get here, get situated, make contacts, and be patient. If Maggie has the attitude that she doesn't want to "start at the bottom", she may be in for a surprise.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nagoyaguy wrote:
Monkey-man;

Sorry I wasn't clear. The "per koma" salary is monthly. So, if you teach 12 koma at a low paying uni, your monthly salary is 12 times 25,000 yen, or 300,000. The good part is that you are paid over 12 months, even though you only work for eight.
Balls. I'll start unpacking my suitcase then...
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nagoyaguy wrote:
Glenski;
Not sure about Hokkaido, but here in Aichi, the system is pretty informal. Most people (those at private unis anyway) know each other and who is available.
Most uni jobs in Hokkaido are in Sapporo, population almost 2 million. Similarly to Aichi, a lot of people know each other, and that is at many of the unis, not just private ones. But, the vast majority of FT openings are still only for contract positions (1 or 3 years long).

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As for advertising, my school does "advertise" vacancies. but in a rather obscure location on the school's homepage.
Ken Hartmann's Hokkaido Insider newsletter is a good source for jobs in Hokkaido, so if a school also advertises on its web page, there is that, too. JALT's TLT and JACET's page also have ads from time to time (TLT in English and JACET in either English or Japanese). Most uni jobs, however, around the whole country are posted in JRECIN's web site, and those could be in either language, not always in both.

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That's why I said, and I think you agree, that the best option is to get here, get situated, make contacts, and be patient.
Oh, absolutely! That will mean taking something else for a while, IMO, before someone can land that uni job. When we were looking for a PT person 3 years ago, we were unable to find anyone locally who would apply (or who we knew was suitable), so we branched out to all of Hokkaido and got a couple of bites, and then when we advertised on Ohayo Sensei, a handful more applicants sent in resumes, including one from Tokyo, New Zealand, and Italy. However, the quality of applicants or their applications themselves was pretty low. Many didn't even read the ad properly, in particular about visa sponsorship. Being in the country will help most people if they aren't published or very experienced, but it's still very competitive.

I would also recommend joining JALT and a couple of suitable SIGs and starting to make presentations and write publications. One doesn't have to be a member of JALT or a SIG to present/publish in JALT journals, either. There are plenty of publications not affiliate with JALT, too.

I'm a little surprised that with the degrees she has, that she has not published yet.

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If Maggie has the attitude that she doesn't want to "start at the bottom", she may be in for a surprise.
But she did, in fact, say she was willing to do that.
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jmatt



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="Glenski"]
Nagoyaguy wrote:
Glenski;

I'm a little surprised that with the degrees she has, that she has not published yet.



I don't know what the situation is in Australia or the UK, but in the US, college and university TESOL jobs requiring a master's degree virtually never require publications for employment---though having published certainly doesn't hurt---it's more a thing for PhD's seeking tenured faculty positions.

While I understand that being published shows a dedication to the profession, it seems that in Japan it's more a reflection on the need for doing things the "proper" way and having the necessary licensing and credentials inherent in the culture, than any proof that one is qualified, or able, to actually teach.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Publishing in ANY country is not a measure of teaching ability, IMO, so don't limit remarks to Japan (or PhDs).

In Japan it has nothing to do with licensing. As for having "credentials inherent in the culture", I'm not sure what you mean. Japanese unis generally ask ALL profs of all faculties to publish. Publishing in many fields (in Japan and elsewhere) is necessary to prove academic worth to get grants, not just promotions.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glenski wrote:
As for having "credentials inherent in the culture", I'm not sure what you mean.


Try "[...]credentials *that is* inherent in the culture", as in the culture assumes those things as an inherent part of the process or system.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glenski wrote:
Publishing in ANY country is not a measure of teaching ability, IMO, so don't limit remarks to Japan (or PhDs).

In Japan it has nothing to do with licensing. As for having "credentials inherent in the culture", I'm not sure what you mean. Japanese unis generally ask ALL profs of all faculties to publish. Publishing in many fields (in Japan and elsewhere) is necessary to prove academic worth to get grants, not just promotions.


I think the point was that for language teaching jobs in the US that require only a masters, publications are not required (but they are for jobs that require a PhD -- i.e., professors).

In my experience in the US, the vast majority of MA students don't have opportunities to get anything published. For most language teachers at US universities who only have a masters (e.g., IEP teachers), the only grants they generally apply for are from their university/college, and publications aren't necessarily required for those. Of the MA students that I know in the US (in TESOL/Applied Linguistics/Second Language Studies, etc.), very, very few have gotten research published; I also only know a few who have presented at conferences. So, I'm a bit confused by your comment that you are "a little surprised that with the degrees she has, that she has not published yet," especially when she already said that her degree did not involve research.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
G Cthulhu wrote:
Glenski wrote:
As for having "credentials inherent in the culture", I'm not sure what you mean.


Try "[...]credentials *that is* inherent in the culture", as in the culture assumes those things as an inherent part of the process or system.
Alternatively, it could be glossed as "most Japanese universities miss the point completely."
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