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Mr.Engrish



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'snotmyfault wrote:
Opiate wrote:
7969 wrote:
it'snotmyfault wrote:
A lot of the foreign teachers do have a common "look"

wasted from the night before
possibly slept under a hedge
2-3 days stubble
clothes that look like they came from a charity shop
a mixture of teeth missing/gold fillings
inappropriate tattoos

And what about the male foreign teachers?


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I only got the stubble going thats about it
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Engrish wrote:
In fact, I'm yet to spot an attractive foreign girl in north China. I believe the only ones that where attractive were in Hong Kong.

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You must not be in the northeast. Loads of hot Russian girls up there. Koreans, too.
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Mr.Engrish



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inner Mongolia.

I never thought of that actually, the Russian part makes sense but Koreans?

When you say " loads" how many are we talking about roughly?

I would imagine most are students?
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Engrish wrote:

I would imagine most are students?


Maybe half are students. The other half are 'students'.
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Lobster



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One load of girls = 24 general mixed foreign girls, 132 Korean girls or 6 Russian girls.

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spicykimchi



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Engrish wrote:
Inner Mongolia.

I never thought of that actually, the Russian part makes sense but Koreans?


I'd have to agree with you.
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basbas



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the chinese and asians in general have very skewed perceptions of what a foreigner should look like...I am often reminded of something I saw when I worked in korea. I used to teach community center classes and I would give my kids a test once a month on the material we had studied...I would buy them pizza let them watch a movie while I corrected their test...I would always get the pizza from the same place...this little pizza place around the corner from the community center...on the window of the pizza place there was what I can only assume was supposed to be a cartoon character that was supposed to be Italian...he was a fat guy with a beard and chef's hat but he had blue eye and blond hair. This to me always looked really 'wrong'...not that there aren't blond italians, it's just that when I think of an Italian I think of someone who looks like Rudolph Valentino or something...you know dark eyes and hair...

I don't think this proves anything (it was just an observation of course) but I think for a lot of people in china if you don't correspond to 'the look' they have in their minds about what foreigners should look like then your somehow cheating them and their not getting their money's worth or something along those lines...

I've tried explaining some things to chinese people concerning genetics

about 1/4 of people in the English speaking countries have blond hair...

about 1/4 of people in the English speaking countries have blue eyes...

(These are just approximations, it certainly varies from place to place but on average this is about right)

sooooo doing a little simple math the odds of having blond hair and blues eyes is about 1/8... pretty low all things considered...

I also try to remind them them that there is no relationship between what someone looks like and their ability to speak a language. Despite what our vulgar Chomskian friends think there is no biological hard-wiring for a particular language...Chinese people aren't 'biologically' better suited to speak chinese, russian people aren't biologically better suited to speak russian. Anyone who doubts the veracity of this last point is invited to take a newborn child from anywhere in the world and put him on the other side of the world in a totally different language group, come back 10 years later and he will speak the host language perfectly, come back 10 years after that and try to teach him his 'native' language and watch him struggle...This shows what a lot of people have suspected for a long time; language is a cultural artifact and nothing more...
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that most people (certainly most women) who have red or blonde hair don't actually have naturally red or blonde hair. And if you really care about eye color you can get special contacts.

Now me, I may have brown hair and brown eyes, but I have a type of skin which is physically incapable of tanning, which is usually a nuisance, but I do get some perverse enjoyment when people in Asian countries comment with awe on how white my hands are.

basbas wrote:

I've tried explaining some things to chinese people concerning genetics

about 1/4 of people in the English speaking countries have blond hair...

about 1/4 of people in the English speaking countries have blue eyes...

(These are just approximations, it certainly varies from place to place but on average this is about right)

sooooo doing a little simple math the odds of having blond hair and blues eyes is about 1/8... pretty low all things considered...

I think you'll find that it's 1/16.

basbas wrote:

I also try to remind them them that there is no relationship between what someone looks like and their ability to speak a language. Despite what our vulgar Chomskian friends think there is no biological hard-wiring for a particular language...

I have a lot of issues with Chomsky, but if you're going to criticize him, you should at least understand the basics of Chomskyan linguistics. (As presented by people other than Chomsky. Nobody who's not really into linguistics should try reading Noam Chomsky.) Neither Chomsky nor his followers (nor any credible linguist, for that matter) has ever claimed that genetics affects ability to speak a particular language. The innatism in Chomskyan linguistics comes from the belief in a language "organ" (accepted by pretty much all linguists) and a number of parameters or switches, which are triggered by input.

As for claims that Asians are more wired to learn Asian languages, this is something that I've only heard from Koreans and Chinese people. I don't know where they're getting it, but I figure it probably comes from the same place they learn about fan death, astrology, and qi.

The closest thing I've heard to an even vaguely "scientific" innatist argument about Asians and languages is that Asian ears are more adapted to tonal languages than Westerners. I don't know the details of that study, nor where I read it, but if it wasn't done at an East Asian university I'd be surprised, and if it was independently replicated I'd be shocked.

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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The closest thing I've heard to an even vaguely "scientific" innatist argument about Asians and languages is that Asian ears are more adapted to tonal languages than Westerners. I don't know the details of that study, nor where I read it, but if it wasn't done at an East Asian university I'd be surprised, and if it was independently replicated I'd be shocked.


It's a result of conditioning, not a result of biology.
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GeminiTiger



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night my girlfriend was watching some signing competition on the internet that is called "Asian Wave". It had several foreigners as backup performers, mostly doing some dancing in the background.

First I saw the man and I thought to myself, whoa, that dude is not handsome at all for being on TV.

Later I saw three white girls. Zoomed out it looked pretty good but when they finally showed the faces I saw 3 giant Russian rather large noses and hard chiseled looks, anything but feminine looking.

I stopped watching.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A wise choice sir.
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