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[cfaulkner]

I've been told by a few teachers who obviously were more concerned about their job security than the truth.

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[cfaulkner]

That sounds good, contrasted with what else I've heard about China. China is a huge place when compared with, say, Korea, so it's believable it'd be highly unlikely you'd ever see former colleagues. I can dig that. Most of the colleagues I've had in TESOL I never want to see again. You know how it is.

[zactherat]

[Miles Smiles]

I exchanged PMs with cfaulkner. His situation sounds like a nightmare. I owe him an apology.

Anyone who has been harassed by fellow FTs should get their names and addresses out of the various information aggregators such as Spokeo and Zaba Search. That's a start. Second, write to Intelius and demand that your info be deleted from their databases. Granted, they dispense only public records, but they will eventually back down if you explain that you are being harassed and wish to be deleted from their databases because there is some wrong information. Tell them that you will be forced to seek remedy. This doesn't really mean much but it implies that you'll get a lawyer to make life hell for them. You'll have to fax in a copy of your driver's license with your picture and driver's license number blacked out.

Persistence will pay off.

It also helps to get all information that you may have shared taken off the internet. Linked In allows you to at least change facts.

[cfaulkner]

Thanks for that info, Miles.

[DosEquisX]

The best way to avoid this situation is to not have a criminal record.

However, one could always look into expunging their conviction (assuming that it was only one conviction on record).

[Miles Smiles]

People make mistakes, and they grow out of them. Ten and twenty years usually make a different man.
cfaulkner, keep on keepin' on. You have a degree. Get a job in China, and you're golden.

Really.

And welcome to the club. When you get your butt over here, promise us all that you will do a good job.

[cfaulkner]

Some states allow expungements even of felonies. Some states won't give expungments of anything, no matter how much time has passed or how minor the offense. And they don't care if you haven't gotten as much as a traffic ticket in thirty years. No go for you in those states. In this day and age of the internet, you will continue to be punished for offenses that are decades old.

I always do a good job wherever I go. As good as anyone else, at least.

[cfaulkner]

[Miles Smiles]

[cfaulkner]

That's just a minor offense. You shouldn't be held up as an evil-doer now, but you know I don't call the shots. One wrong move and you'd be in the hot water deep. Just avoid giving anyone your transcript or telling them about your past, such as where you lived and such. Americans love to prune down the competition, especially in the high-paying places. They love to make mountains out of molehills when it comes to this to get people fired. You'd be treated as if you were Himmler's henchman in the old Third Reich. I hope you live in a state that will give you an expungement. I know some states won't expunge squat, so you'll be punished for that forever. If your conviction was in one of those, I hope you can stay in China and keep this off the radar screen for the next 25 years. Good luck, man.

PS--I know of teachers who committed violent felonies in two countries, but nothing happened to them. They eventually went to Korea, where they teach to this day. You'd not be allowed to work there with your minor offense. It's great it's a fair world.

[unclealex]

Just check Yes or No. If you check Yes, then you'll have to apply for and submit a CRC letter from the proper law enforcement agency to confirm your claim. Checking No leaves it at that - no further questions asked.