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The Steakinator
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 71 Location: Oman
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: Spending non-teaching hours watching the other teacher teach |
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Just arrived in China and started with a at a place I had signed a contract with and arranged my Z-visa with. They (the recruiter I signed with) set me up with a school that teaches the American IB (International Bacchelaureate) curriculum and suddenly...
1) Having the impression (though not in the contract) that I would be teaching "Oral English" like most Lao Wei here, I'm propelled into teaching English, Maths, Science, and "Culture" (i.e. American history and culture).
2) I had signed for up to 18 teaching hours a week and then 150 RMB for teach hour after that, but now I'm told I have to prepare a detailed lesson plan for each class I'm about to teach (all 27 "lectures" per week) and e-mail it to the recruiting company at least one week ahead of teaching the class. Let it be known, I'm all for lesson plans, but creating a detailed one for each of 27 "lectures" each week is a bit intense - 20 minutes plus for the lesson plan and then at least that much gathering all the other materials (handouts, video clips, songs, art supplies, etc.). Gone are the days when preparing for a two hour class is five minutes of paging through the next several pages of the text book, jotting down a handful of notes on a piece of scratch paper, and then using it as a bookmark. Some of the worst lessons I've ever given were meticulously planned out, they just broke down in the face of the reality. Hands down, the most brilliant lessons I've ever given weren't planned, they were just lessons on topics I had taught a half-a dozen or more times.
3) I was informed that when I'm not teaching, at least in the morning, I have to sit in the class and watch the other teacher teach. They assured me I could work on lesson plans during that time, but that I had to remain in the class. Is this standard?
Has anyone else had an experience like this? What did you do? Should I just nod and smile but do as I like later? |
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7969

Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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You're not teaching 27 different lessons per week are you? Most of us teach one lesson per week to all classes, which means one lesson plan per week. Most employers will ask you to submit some kind of teaching plan at the beginning of the term. If what they're asking of you is too much (or too much too quickly) just make up a stock teaching plan and email it in. Cut and paste from somewhere else if you have to. There's a good chance no-one's going to look at it anyway, or if they do they'll approve it regardless of what it says.
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3) I was informed that when I'm not teaching, at least in the morning, I have to sit in the class and watch the other teacher teach. They assured me I could work on lesson plans during that time, but that I had to remain in the class. Is this standard? |
It sounds a bit like office hours. Do what they ask you in the beginning. You may find soon enough that there's nothing or not a lot for you to do during the down time and one day you just slip away, and no-one even notices. I had office hours like this in one job but nothing to do, one day I just went home and never came back to the office again. No-one noticed or said anything. Once you've been there awhile you could request to do your lesson planning at home as it would be more efficient (or some other line you might want to use). |
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rogerwilco
Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Someone got really "clever" in the wording of your contract, at your expense.
My contract states 14 classes a week, and that is what I teach, 14 forty minute classes a week.
Anyway, in your situation I would make it as easy as possible, and just copy and paste like crazy.
Do you work at a uni or training center, or what ? |
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Lobster

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 2040 Location: Somewhere under the Sea
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Why would a recruiter require a lesson plan, let alone a detailed one? Unless they are going to appropriate your work for their own use. You don't work for the recruiter, you work for the school that pays you. Having a recruiter making demands of your time is not fair to the school. Lesson plans are for absolute newbs. Send them the following:
Lesson 1: text
Lesson 2: text
Lesson 3: text
etc.
If you signed on for 18 teaching hours and and are being asked to sit in on another teacher's class, surely you must have agreed to some office hours that they want you to burn up in this way. If not, just bill them 150/hr for every class you sit in on.
As roger says, someone got "clever" in your contract wording at your expense. We don't have the details of your contract, but it sounds remarkably inane. Next time read the contract more thoroughly and with a jaundiced eye.
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GeminiTiger
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 999 Location: China, 2005--Present
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Spending non-teaching hours watching the other teacher t |
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The Steakinator wrote: |
Just arrived in China and started with a at a place I had signed a contract with and arranged my Z-visa with.
1) I'm propelled into teaching English, Maths, Science, and "Culture" (i.e. American history and culture).
2) I had signed for up to 18 teaching hours a week and then 150 RMB for teach hour after that, but now I'm told I have to prepare a detailed lesson plan for each class I'm about to teach (all 27 "lectures" per week) and e-mail it to the recruiting company at least one week ahead of teaching the class.
3) I was informed that when I'm not teaching, at least in the morning, I have to sit in the class and watch the other teacher teach. They assured me I could work on lesson plans during that time, but that I had to remain in the class. Is this standard?
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So did you sign with the school or the recruiter? If you signed with the "recruiter" that would actually be an agency and you have set yourself up for the worst case scenario, being farmed out to teach in China.
I doubt either 1) or 2) is accurate. I suggest you get the full details of what they really expect. For your own sake, I hope you have enough money and self respect not to take endless amounts of bullshit from some agency. Nobody in China teaches math+science+English, that is just ridiculous. On point 3) unless your contract says you have to sit in classes all morning, simply refuse, same for 2) unless your contract says you have to do things in this specific way.
Contracts are two way streets. Don't let them send all the traffic up your backside. |
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Lobster

Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 2040 Location: Somewhere under the Sea
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:47 am Post subject: |
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People in, International schools, IB and EAP programs may have to teach English and core subjects as well. I've done it myself. Of course, you are no longer simply an oral English teacher and should be making serious coin for doing that job, and I mean well above 15k/month with nice benefits. As Gemini pointed out, it seems you have gotten into an "exploit the newbie" situation. Don't stand for it. If you are not facilitating a class, learning the ropes or acting as an observer with an eye to evaluation, there is no reason for you to be in another teacher's classroom.
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twilothunder
Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Posts: 442
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Lobster wrote: |
People in, International schools, IB and EAP programs may have to teach English and core subjects as well. I've done it myself. Of course, you are no longer simply an oral English teacher and should be making serious coin for doing that job, and I mean well above 15k/month with nice benefits. |
Absolutely correct.
You are being utterly exploited here. |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Unless the contract is so ambiguously worded that this stuff is permissible, you're getting a pretty raw deal. |
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kungfuman
Joined: 31 May 2012 Posts: 1749 Location: In My Own Private Idaho
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ask to see the lesson plans of the previous teachers and just copy them.
or make a standard lesson plan and copy it 27 times.
BUT if your contract says 18 classes a week WHY are you doing 27?
Typically the contract says overtime is OPTIONAL. |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think his contract states 18 HOURS a week. 18 x 60 = 1080 minutes/40 = 27 classes. |
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kungfuman
Joined: 31 May 2012 Posts: 1749 Location: In My Own Private Idaho
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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kev7161 wrote: |
I think his contract states 18 HOURS a week. 18 x 60 = 1080 minutes/40 = 27 classes. |
ahh he didn't make sure one period = one contract hour. Dirty trick some schools play. |
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Miajiayou
Joined: 30 Apr 2011 Posts: 283 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa. If Kev is right and you're getting paid by the actual hour rather than the teaching hour, plus all that other BS, I think this is probably the worst job I've ever heard of in China. I don't really care how much the pay is.
Tell the recruiting company you will submit a syllabus for each class for each semester. Since you're teaching at least four different subjects, you will have your work cut out for you just with that.
I would refuse to sit in on classes, personally. You can be diplomatic about it, there are a million legitimate reasons why a teacher wouldn't spend their time in the classroom of another teacher. Even if you have office hours, ask for an actual freaking office in which to do your lesson planning. |
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The Steakinator
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 71 Location: Oman
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Okay, so here is the situation. It's a first grade with 18-20 kids per class and I teach 14 40 minute sections each week and my "office" is a desk (that I also share with the Chinese co-teacher...) at the back of the classroom. I'm contracted for 18 hours per week, but each hour after that, I get 150 RMB per hour (decent for sitting around doing lesson plans).
Nine of the lessons are ESL/Phonics (pretty easy: we sing the alphabet a few times with flashcards, then I write a few letters on the board showing them the "strokes", then I give them tracing paper with the letters on it, then, if they finish that, I let them color in a picture that's along the lines of "Aa is for Apple"). I teach one math class, that, so far, has consisted of showing Sesame Street clips of the Count rattling off numbers, then I teach four "interdisciplinary" classes. Those are actually hard because I don't have a common language with the kids and, the last time, I chose "family" as the topic and taught them "mother", "father", "brother", etc., showed them some Sesame Street clips about families around the world (in which they mistook a 55 year old Latina grandmother with a gut for "father").
I realized the recruiter signed a contract with me stipulating one thing and then signed a contract with the school stipulating another because the principal was shocked to find out that I was not going to stay from 8:15-5:15 every day. But, that being said, I get free accommodation in a fairly nice "gated community" next to the school and then, including overtime, I get 9,300 RMB (Am I being reemed? Yes, do I mind? Yes. Do I more or less walk into this situation via not having experience in China to know better? Absolutely). Then again, I only teach nine hours a week and spend a lot of time surfing the net. I've realized the "IB" aspect of the school isn't so "IB", namely in that they confine IB to a course verses an entire way of teaching, and after the Chinese teachers starting hitting the kids, their behavior improved dramatically (the first week, they were monsters...)
It's definitely panning out to be an interesting experience, especially the all Chinese copy machine, morning alphabet song with calisthenics, and internet that regularly drops out. |
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kungfuman
Joined: 31 May 2012 Posts: 1749 Location: In My Own Private Idaho
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:24 am Post subject: |
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^ Sounds like an ok and easy gig. At least you can use your down time as leisure and still get paid for it.
So many schools try that bs of come at 8 and stay to 5 - it works well onthe Chinese teachers as they are typically obedient sheep. |
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chinatimes
Joined: 27 May 2012 Posts: 478
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Okay, so here is the situation. It's a first grade with 18-20 kids per class and I teach 14 40 minute sections each week and my "office" is a desk (that I also share with the Chinese co-teacher...) at the back of the classroom. I'm contracted for 18 hours per week, but each hour after that, I get 150 RMB per hour (decent for sitting around doing lesson plans). |
With more than 12, class management is important. How old are these "kids"? Your original post made it sound like a college job.
If first grade means elementary school first grade, then you can probably repeat lessons. There are different approaches for the younger ones, Kindy-2nd or 3rd grade.
Are the 14 classes 14 different classes? If so, then you only have 1 to prepare, and then get variations ready for students who are higher level and those who aren't getting it.
If you are teaching the same classes 2 times or more, then decide if you want all different classes to progress at the same pace. Sometimes, they put higher level students in one class and lower level students in another. In that case you will finish more material obviously with the more advanced classes. Will it get advanced with first graders? Not in an academic sense, but socially some students will speak more.
Personally, I hate this age range, but when I taught them I had to break them into groups based on their willingness to participate. Teach the more active students first and have an activity for them to do while you go to each of the other students and practice. After that, try to get the whole class to speak together. Add games with teams consisting of mixed levels.
As far as your pay, why are you getting paid hourly and not monthly?
If you have agreed to a weekly schedule and monthly pay date, then it makes no sense to work hourly. I would only do that if I had a full-time job with a monthly salary already established and wanted to earn some extra money off the side (legally speaking).
Hopefully, they will apply 8,400 RMB on a monthly basis. Keep this figure in mind and deduct as necessary.
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I chose "family" as the topic and taught them |
They need to see pictures of Chinese people first, then practice Asian mother with European mother, Chinese father with European father and so on. Google flashcards and use cartoons instead of real photos. Color code to help, pink for girls and blue for boys.
They won't understand "brother" or "sister" because very few have one in China. Perhaps, the Chinese teacher can teach these in Chinese first if the students don't already know the Chinese. And then you can use them in class to explain the English. If they are willing, do the same with aunt, uncle, and cousin.
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including overtime, I get 9,300 RMB |
What overtime are you doing? 6 or less classes a month? That's only 1 or 2 a week.
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Then again, I only teach nine hours a week |
Are you sure about that, that would come to 13.5 classes. It would be 10-11 it seems. That's still not many hours.
What is more important is when you have to teach these classes. Are they spread out throughout the day, or do you have 2 blocks a day?
You stated "8:15-5:15" which is a lot for just 10 hours. You have to be there for 40 hours (plus 1 hour a day for lunch)?
This is probably the worst part of the job unless they let you leave after the last morning class and come back about a half hour before the afternoon classes start.
The average I look at is 25 classes a week. If you are doing 14, then perhaps you can't get out of 2 hours a day in the office. That would come to 20 hours roughly. The other 20 hours I would try to get out of. Split the difference and call it a 10er? Try to bring it down to 30 or less. Agree to put more time in if you get more classes (meaning you also get paid more).
Location is another factor. If you are in Shanghai or Beijing, your salary should start at the 10,000-12,000 range. If you are way out in a rural area where money is tight, then you seem to have a good salary. |
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