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Can Saudi Arabia Survive Succession and Instability?
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Central Command



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wonder that if WTSHTF really happens, will it be easy to physically get out? How about your money/assets? They recently put in a cap on how much $$ you can wire out. I'm not sure how strict they currently are if you 10K more than once, but who knows what can happen in the future?

The limit now is 10,000 Riyals, which is about US$2500. Will they make it even more difficult to get cash or things like precious metal out if they do have WTSHTF.

What is WTSHTF? Think doo doo hitting propellers!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checks on export of cash and foreign exchange were introduced at the request of Riyadh's pals in Washington.There is no any restriction on bank trasfers - merely on WU.

Meanwhile the collapse of the international finance system continues. We live in interesting times. I am working on my bunker which I may well need one day when thsoe crazies drop the big one.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Iran when it very unexpectedly collapsed 1978-1979. People who had money in banks loss it all, banks went on "strike", then were burned down along with cinemas, and liquor shops. People were robbed of valuables at gunpoint by PLO mercenaries. It's unbelievable how fast things can deteriorate. Getting out was a nightmare.

If you see what's happening throughout the "caliphate" these days, anything is possible.

Get your money out every month. Take your gold and silver jewelry home every vacation and put it in a safe deposit box at your bank. Buy new gold jewelry, it's a good investment in this era of cheap money.

Have a plan "B".
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Central Command



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Checks on export of cash and foreign exchange were introduced at the request of Riyadh's pals in Washington.There is no any restriction on bank trasfers - merely on WU.

Meanwhile the collapse of the international finance system continues. We live in interesting times. I am working on my bunker which I may well need one day when thsoe crazies drop the big one.


What, pray tell, is WU? Question
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western Union. Where have you BEEN for the last 130 years ?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Western Union. Where have you BEEN for the last 130 years ?

Younger people won't have heard of it probably. I have actually never used it... was always the most expensive option for transfers.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western Union has made a hige comeback. What started off as a telgraph company got into cash trasnsfers. Now quite expensive in KSA iot is actually quite chep in some parts of the world. For me it is the easiest and cheapest way to transfer cash to my extended clasn in Central Africa.

From KSA it IS cheap if wirng to the Philipines or some other 3rd World destinations. Long queues at offices at weekends
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it has become something used for "third world" countries where many don't have bank accounts. In Europe or the US, we now use the internet.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not always true VS, WU is used widely by workers from the "Accession States" of the EU working in the UK
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Not always true VS, WU is used widely by workers from the "Accession States" of the EU working in the UK

I have no idea what an "Accession State" is... and as I assume that all of the countries of the EU have both banks and the internet, I don't see much use for a cumbersome and expensive system like WU.

It is often used by criminals and scammers though. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you heard of the European Union ? Maybe news of that institution has not yet reached Iowa ? An "Accession State" is one of the new States which joined the EU recently eg Poland, Romania.

WU costs vary hugely depending on where you use the service and where you send the money to.

Bank accounts are not universal and many people in Britain as well as in the wider EU do not have bank accounts. In the UK something like 40 percent do NOT have a bank account.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Have you heard of the European Union ? Maybe news of that institution has not yet reached Iowa ? An "Accession State" is one of the new States which joined the EU recently eg Poland, Romania.

WU costs vary higely depending on where you use the service and where you send the money to.

Bank accounts are not universal and many people in Britain as well as in the wider EU do not have bank accopunts.

Naturally I have heard of the EU, but no reason to learn obscure terminology related to whatever or whoever or whenever some country might have joined or not... completely irrelevant and insignificant to the rest of the world.

As to who does or doesn't have bank accounts, I haven't known of any TEFLers who didn't have a bank account either back home or some other country and that is why 90+% of us do transfers. Of course you guys with all those ex-wives... Laughing Laughing

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fledex



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting back to topic. Here's an interesting news flash from yesterday.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/09/2012924214211215227.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it kind of misleading that the photo was someone celebrating "National Day" while the article was about demonstrations near a couple of the local prisons.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As if ... anybody would actually be able to get a photo out of KSA of prison riots! The caption does say that it coincided with National Day.
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