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tremault



Joined: 18 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: airfare and rent etc up front? Reply with quote

Hi,
I was recommended to come here by a friend of mine.
I've been looking for some way to work in east Asia teaching English. My first preference is Japan, but somebody led me to believe that obtaining work in china would be more likely and also I may be likely to get assistance with air-fare and living costs for the first month or so.
I think if I could get some kind of assistance with this, it would be great and I think I have the ability to be a very good teacher.
I have experience teaching English voluntarily in my home town and I have a degree in animation. My strength is in problem solving so I think I should also be able to give good one-on-one support.
I am confident that my CV should make me an attractive candidate but I am wondering what people's experience is with getting the type of financial help that I am looking for?

To be clear, my finances are pretty terrible right now. I'm surviving off government handouts and have no savings or anyone that could lend me money. I'm hoping that if this works out, working in China (or another country) can help me to climb out of the financial pit I find myself in. even if only by a little bit.

Thanks for reading!!
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: airfare and rent etc up front? Reply with quote

tremault wrote:
My strength is in problem solving

tremault wrote:
To be clear, my finances are pretty terrible right now. I'm surviving off government handouts and have no savings or anyone that could lend me money. I'm hoping that if this works out, working in China (or another country) can help me to climb out of the financial pit I find myself in. even if only by a little bit.

I noticed that your strength is in problem solving. What are some of your other qualifications? What are your weaknesses?
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tremault



Joined: 18 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your question. Smile

my qualifications include systems design and programming (web design), photography, film and video, graphic design.

I would have qualifications in computer science and other sciences, but this brings me to my weakness. I am dyslexic and have particular difficulty in academics. I have trouble with filling in forms and writing essays etc. The weakness is in short term memory so it gives me a different approach to linguistics. I don't have a problem with creative writing.

edit: I also want to point out that I love linguistics. While I have difficulty with essays and forms, I love etymology and I enjoy translating some manga from Japanese into English.


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RPMcMurphy



Joined: 22 Aug 2012
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll need your problem solving skills. While you may be able to land a job,
-you'll still need to find your own airfare initially, with the likelihood of reimbursement; it depends. Clarify this during negotiations.
-unless you get a school/college/university job which includes housing, you'll have a lot of up front costs to get yourself a place to live. Again, clarify this.
-teaching in China is hardly likely to solve your financial woes.

Print out and take any relevant emails from your negotiations. The old bait and switch is alive and well in China.

ps posted this before I saw your previous post. Strengths in English literacy are probably your greatest need, but appear to be a weakness, no disrespect intended whatsoever.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a good idea to come here broke. ANYTHING can happen at anytime.
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fat_chris



Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
It's not a good idea to come here broke. ANYTHING can happen at anytime.


Indeed this.

Cool

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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roadwalker



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 1750
Location: Ch

PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I third the advice to avoid coming over broke. And OP, your situation would be even worse: starting off in debt to a school that may be ethical, professional and all that, or NOT. Even if you were to merely have philosophical differences with the boss, you will really feel trapped.

Maybe you already feel trapped in your current situation, but things can get worse. My advice: document two years of teaching experience or continue as you have until you can, and save the airfare, enough for a return flight and a small cushion for who knows what, and then come over. I know saving may be impossible now, but coming to China, or going to any foreign country broke is Russian roulette with only one empty chamber. At least come with enough credentials to get a legal job and enough money to get out of bad situations.
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tremault



Joined: 18 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,
thanks for the advice thus far!
I really hear what you're saying and I understand the importance of making sure I have some money before leaving my country.

I have something that I am sure I will be able to sell for between �150-200 .
I was expecting to use that money to help me but I thought it might simply be used up obtaining a visa and getting to an airport etc.
However, I was pretty confident that I cannot save up within the region of �600 for a plane ticket.

I understand the potential difficulty with being in debt to a school. Being in debt to an agent however would be a different story, right? I wouldn't have to work with the Agent on a day-to-day basis so I would expect the situation to be fine. It's not like it would be all that different from my current relationship with my own country's social security dept.
Aside from that, I wonder if negotiations with an agent would result in a particular 'debt' or rather, the agent would simply make the decision to take that amount out of the salary over a few months along with their normal fees? it would not be seen as a debt and it would be in the agents interest to make sure I am in a stable position?
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