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joelackey92



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Does Your Degree Matter? Reply with quote

I'm familiar with the fact that the majority of employers at English schools overseas are looking to hire individuals with a college degree. Assuming both are TEFL certified with no prior teaching experience, would an applicant with a degree in history have an advantage over the applicant with a degree in engineering?
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santi84



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine that employers who hire teachers with minimum TEFL certification/no experience/non-related degrees are just looking to fulfill visa requirements - so no, I doubt that there would be a preference over a history or engineering degree. I suppose some employers may feel that someone with a history degree has better language knowledge than someone with an engineering degree (stereotypical assumption) but I don't personally see how that translates to teaching ESL/EFL.
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Sirens of Cyprus



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some ministries or schools won't accept degrees that are not directly related to teaching ESL. Sadly, some will accept, or even prefer, any degree with the word "education" in it, even if it has absolutely nothing to do with ESL. Moreover, in spite of all the lip service paid to content-based-instruction, having a degree in a really hard subject like engineering, or any other subject besides English, ESL, or applied linguistics will not be a feather in your cap, but will more likely be held against you as proof that you can't make up your mind what you want to do.

What really should matter is whether you know English. Quickie certifications, and even MA programs in ESL can teach you the general idea of how to teach ESL, but they can't teach you English. A BA in English should be mandatory.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

History over engineering? By that logic, a social studies degree would trump one in microbiology, a psychology major tops an IT grad, and a political science major would have a better chance than a chemistry major.

It doesn't matter. If employers accept a history degree (and if it's enough to get you a work visa), then what matters is all the other stuff on your resume and in your background, plus your personality and chemistry to interact with staff and students.
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joelackey92



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you guys for the responses. Most of these companies on this site are looking for teachers who have received a degree, but I was just curious as to which degree in particular would have an influence on their decision to hire you.

History and engineering, Glenki, were just two subjects that I wanted to use as an example because of the differences between the two.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Does Your Degree Matter? Reply with quote

joelackey92 wrote:
I'm familiar with the fact that the majority of employers at English schools overseas are looking to hire individuals with a college degree. Assuming both are TEFL certified with no prior teaching experience, would an applicant with a degree in history have an advantage over the applicant with a degree in engineering?


In ASIA, overall, it doesn't matter.

The degree is an immigration requirement for the visa/work permits, etc. and not an employer issue.

Not so long ago, before the degree became a visa requirement the average employer would take anyone who spoke English and had a pulse with a strong preference for a Caucasian face.

By and large, language academies just want the white face and anglophone passport to show to the moms.

If you are talking about getting into mainstream (K-12) schools then it is country specific. You are OK for Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam. You are not OK for Taiwan, Hong Kong (teacher license needed for k-12) or Indonesia (English degree needed). Others vary by country.

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thatsforsure



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be honest degrees dont really matter .. i graduated five years ago and ive don well but you dont need it ,. some jobs require this or that degree such as international school or middle east but really those jobs isnt all there cracked up to be. i do internet activity , very happy .
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Sirens of Cyprus



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what I mean? A BA in English should be mandatory. What a sad state the profession is in!
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santi84



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