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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am unclear how you refuse giving a student a test. The school doesn't have a problem with this? You simply say, "You can't take a test"?

Do they stay in the class or are you essentially kicking them out of the classroom?

Also, how do you grade specifically?

Do you give ABC and submit those to the school? Do you do 4.0, 3.0, 2.0? Do you do percentages (100%, 90%, 80%)?


Basically, if the student shows up for the exam (the student who has never been to class), I just give them the test. Invariably, they get a bad score. I record the score, then make a note on the grade sheet that they never came to class and should fail. What the school does with this, is the school's business.

I give percentage grades. I am fairly sure the Chinese never use the 4.0 system, as I've had to explain it to several students who were going abroad and didn't know what it meant. The Chinese have a A, B, C-like system, but they don't use the letters. Instead, it has a Chinese word for each one, like 优秀 is A, 良好 is B, and I don't remember the others. Anyway, they understand percentages perfectly so that's what I report.
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TexasHighway



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinatimes wrote:
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A freshman class in college was talkative and engaged in my lesson. We couldn't cover everything I had because they spoke so much
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I think it is the teacher's job to set the pace and cover what you intend to cover. If you let them, students will walk all over the foreign teacher. I set the rules the first day and let the students know half of their grade is based on attendance/participation and the other half on the final exam. If the students show up on time, they get a point. If they participate well, they get an extra point. If they put their head down or disrupt the class, I subtract a point. At the end of the term I calculate a raw score for each student to establish their grades. As others have said, I have found that "going off" on a student is counter-productive. It is far easier to set up some strict guidelines at the beginning and then easing up later than the other way around..
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Miajiayou



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did have some problems with discipline when I was new to teaching. Now, I have been around long enough that it is no biggie. It still seems absurd to me that I have to beat basic rules into their heads at the beginning of each semester to make sure these 20-somethings will know not to, you know, talk while I'm talking. But it seems to be.

As for grades, the weight of the final exam depends on the subject. For speaking, I consider attendance and participation to be more important than for other subjects. I failed two guys last year who only attended one and a half classes. Nobody could have convinced me that they were members of that class. I didn't let them take the final exam. They have to retake my class this year, sitting in with a class of sophomores.
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teachingld2004



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:49 pm    Post subject: grading Reply with quote

Here is my system, and it does not change.
Everyone starts off with a "C".
If you come to class most of the time, and you try,you get a "B".
If you sleep, or play with your phone, (some of the time) the "C" stays.
If you are rude (playing with the phone all the time, failing tests) you get a "D".
If you never come of course you fail.
You get an "A" if you should get an "A" (we can debate this one)

I write this on the board, and then I write this on a piece of paper, and everyone signs it. If anyone questions the grade, too bad. They signed this paper.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: grading Reply with quote

teachingld2004 wrote:
Here is my system, and it does not change.
Everyone starts off with a "C".
If you come to class most of the time, and you try,you get a "B".
If you sleep, or play with your phone, (some of the time) the "C" stays.
If you are rude (playing with the phone all the time, failing tests) you get a "D".
If you never come of course you fail.
You get an "A" if you should get an "A" (we can debate this one)

I write this on the board, and then I write this on a piece of paper, and everyone signs it. If anyone questions the grade, too bad. They signed this paper.


I don't know how successful that is. So far my list of funny excuses are:

1. "She is not here today teacher." - "Why not?" - "Her mother came to visit her (this was in the second week of classes in a new semester)." - "So, if my mother comes to visit me, I don't have to teach?" (class chuckles and we move on)

2. "Teacher, what if we come to class and listen to you. Then, you pass us all?"

3. I had to go to the English office during a class yesterday, and while walking in the hallway I saw 2 students who were supposed to be in that class. As soon as they saw me, one of them actually said, "We can't find the classroom." This is the 4th week of classes and they obviously do know where the classroom is. I couldn't do anything but laugh hysterically while people looked at the "funny foreigner".
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7969



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: grading Reply with quote

teachingld2004 wrote:
I write this on the board, and then I write this on a piece of paper, and everyone signs it. If anyone questions the grade, too bad. They signed this paper.

Is that you Grover Norquist Question Question
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