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8 hours a day for NT$53,000 a month?
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Pop Fly



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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This board sx...what's with all this bbc code crapola????
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Fortigurn



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop Fly wrote:
You have done the hard part, made the decision. Now go with the flow. One of the big lessons I am learning these days is; why worry about something you can do nothing about. You are coming here. There are jobs here. Lots. Count your blessings, you are coming with a partner, that makes things twice as easy. You effectively double my rent budget so can get a groovy pad...okay...a bigger concrete cubicle...but you can make it groovy...

There are here...but to satisfy your fretful soul, walk into the first place you see and apply for a ....I'll <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=bet&v=56">bet</a> you get it. I wouldn't take it, but that's me. I'd use a week to train myself in interview and negotiation techniques, but hey, that's been asked and answered many a as well. Don't make me beyatch slap you like I did old km there a few posts back....


Chill dude..........be more Canadian.....


Fantastic reponse, thanks Pop Fly. And yeah, Canadians are chill. What's happening to me, I'm losing my laid back Aussie carelessness! Thanks for pulling me into line. Embarassed
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Aristotle



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck,
A.
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Pop Fly



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristotle wrote:
Please read this.
http://www.geocities.com/taiwanteacher2002/Success.html
Good luck,
A.



Baahaaaahaaaaa...............
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Fortigurn



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, my email in response to someone offering to find me a job:

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1) I need a job paying at least NT$60,000 a month, due to financial commitments.

2) If I am going to work more than 30 hours a week, I would expect to earn more than NT$60,000 a month.

3) I would prefer a job in Taipei City/Taipei County, but I am flexible as long as I'm not stuck in some little country village miles from anywhere.


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answer : this can be arange, most school pay around 55000~60000.

answer : I think your hours wil be like this : Mon~Fri, from AM 09:00~PM17:00, but during AM 09:00~PM17:00 no more then five teaching hours per day, the other hours will be your free time and office hours. office hours means no teaching, but you will have to stay in school.

most of jobs in TAIPEI can pay you up to 60000 with same work hours, but they can not offer you an free apartment for you to stay, which means you will have to rent your own apartment, and that will cost you more and more money everymonthly, and you have to pay at least two months deposit to your landlady. so I will say lot more other city will be MUCH MUCH better then Taipei. please let me know what you think, thanks.

I think this one will be good for you :

school code #d3011
locate in I-lan town, (North of Taipei) looking for full time teacher ASAP, Mon~Fri:am08:30~16:30, school pay 57000 in frist 6 months, after you stay for 6 month, your salary will up to 60000, and after you saty 12 months, you will receive 18,000 as an year bouns, plus free accommodation, INS, Work Permit...more. Kid's age from 4~12 years old.
Click the link below to see I-lan city : http://enwww.e-land.gov.tw/


I'm most interested in the 'living out of Taipei' thing. Is rent really that steep?
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TaoyuanSteve



Joined: 05 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortigun, are you here or still overseas? If you are not here yet, may I suggest you leave off decisions on where you will live until you arrive? You may (but not necessarily) regret choosing to live in smaller centers upon first arrival in Taiwan. Be aware that foreigners and English speakers are virtually non-existent outside of major towns. This doesn't make these places bad places to live, but it does mean heightened culture shock and isolation for newly arrived foreigners. You really should know more about this place before you commit to living anywhere. Also, and I know this has been said many times ad nauseum -- but I'll say it again, don't use a recruiter or otherwise accept employment offers until you get here. It is in your best interest to avoid recruiters. I know you're feeling nervous. I was too (and probably everybody who' s ever come here did as well) when I first came here. I, like you're contemplating, put my faith in a recruiter. Big surpise: I was screwed. You're looking for security. There isn't any. You're looking for an iron clad employment contract. They don't exist here. You're looking for someone to get you a better deal than you can get on your own. You can't get a better deal than the one you negotiate yourself in person. Jobs here are not hard to find. Get here. Relax. Adjust. Find a place to live. Get a job. No worries.
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Fortigurn



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TaoyuanSteve wrote:
Fortigun, are you here or still overseas?


Still here in Australia. I arrive in Taiwan on June 29.

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If you are not here yet, may I suggest you leave off decisions on where you will live until you arrive?


Ok.

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You may (but not necessarily) regret choosing to live in smaller centers upon first arrival in Taiwan. Be aware that foreigners and English speakers are virtually non-existent outside of major towns. This doesn't make these places bad places to live, but it does mean heightened culture shock and isolation for newly arrived foreigners. You really should know more about this place before you commit to living anywhere. Also, and I know this has been said many times ad nauseum -- but I'll say it again, don't use a recruiter or otherwise accept employment offers until you get here. It is in your best interest to avoid recruiters. I know you're feeling nervous. I was too (and probably everybody who' s ever come here did as well) when I first came here. I, like you're contemplating, put my faith in a recruiter. Big surpise: I was screwed. You're looking for security. There isn't any. You're looking for an iron clad employment contract. They don't exist here. You're looking for someone to get you a better deal than you can get on your own. You can't get a better deal than the one you negotiate yourself in person. Jobs here are not hard to find. Get here. Relax. Adjust. Find a place to live. Get a job. No worries.


Great advice, it reinforces what Pop Fly has said too. Thanks, I'll stop fussing and be quiet now. Honest. Embarassed
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monoxide



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where should i look for basic information on good and bad contracts and how to tell the difference?
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Taylor



Joined: 24 Oct 2003
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Location: Texas/Taiwan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as contracts go, the SHORTER the BETTER.

These extra contracts with all the details are not legally-binding anyway. The only one that counts simply says you will work at least 14 hours per week for the particular school.

In actuality, even that is not required (if a teacher/school mutually agree to 8 hours per week, for example).

Forget about the 10NT hour raises every three months. Just look for a solid hourly rate/good salary and a pleasant work environment.

You will either be the only foreigner, one of a few, or one of many. Think about which setting sounds most desirable to you personally.

Best wishes,

Taylor
Texas/Taiwan
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monoxide



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was under the impression that all contracts lasted for a year.. i guess that i was mostly wrong. i'm guessing that maybe the majority of contracts are 1-year?

on that website that aristotle posted, it recommends
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Do your homework and get a multiple entry, tourist visa for business purposes.

how is this possible? i was just looking through the http://www.boca.gov.tw/english/ website, and it looked to me like there is a tourist visa, and a business visa. i couldn't find anything about a combination visa. my travel agent also did not mention anything about this visa. it looks to me like to get a business visa, you have to have an invitation, and possibly an assload of other papers like income tax reports and other proofs that you work where you claim to work and that you have a reason to be in taiwan.
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