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mfuechec



Joined: 09 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Teacher Training? Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm looking into getting a job in Japan, hopefully starting aroundish CNY. I have 1.5 years experience experience in Taiwan and 10 months in Vietnam. But I also have about a months experience teaching Vietnamese public school English teachers FCE test prep.
I found that to be a pretty challenging and rewarding job and I'm interested in working in teacher training more.
My questions are:

-Will that experience be viewed as anything significant when I look for a job in Japan?
-Any ideas where I could find a job like that?
-Should I consider a job recruiter?
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't mention qualifications, but assuming you have a degree and a TEFL cert of some kind, your experience qualifies you for a cuppa at Starbucks after the day's entry-level work (eikaiwa/private language school, AET dispatch, possibly JET) along with everyone else. Smile Wink I'm not sure how your FCE coaching will be viewed (especially if you hope and push to do similar in Japan), as not all the Japanese Teachers of English that I've worked with have been open to learning anything, even when it's they who broached a question (that they often had already decided the answer to, even if that answer was incorrect). You can lead a horse to water...
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say your best bet would be a position with a dispatch company. You'd likely have to put in a year or two of work in public schools, and if you're good you might be able to climb the ladder within the company a little, towards some kind of training role. I wouldn't count on it though. Also, my limited experience with foreign teacher training in Japan is that it's as much about the unique situations in Japanese schools as it is about actual teaching skills.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once interviewed with an eikaiwa based in Minato-ku that was branching out into AET dispatch work in Chiba. When I showed them some of the materials I'd created, and explained a little about my approach to teaching, they asked if in addition to the AET job I'd be interested in developing some workshops to help train their AETs. I had to say no to the job generally for several reasons:

1) The low pro-rated pay (similar jobs had paid an average of only 160K per month, no pay during school holidays, been difficult to get absolutely any time off from, etc)
2) The very probable lack of interest and even resentment from most AETs (see 1) regarding training, esp. if during "holidays"
3) I didn't particularly want to work in Kashiwa (I'd worked in neighbouring Nagareyama for a year), let alone potentially beyond that city.

I don't see teacher training as a particularly rewarding area, at least not in Japan LOL. You can have some good online discussions, but that's probably about it. Sure, there's stuff like AJALT (if you're that interested in literally paying the profession's membership dues yet further), but that's not really connected enough to one's day job ultimately.

OneJoelFifty wrote:
I'd say your best bet would be a position with a dispatch company. You'd likely have to put in a year or two of work in public schools, and if you're good you might be able to climb the ladder within the company a little, towards some kind of training role.

Good at what? Brown-nosing, and turning a blind eye to the hypocrisy and cut-throat practices of these blood-sucking middle men? Laughing Wink These companies don't even want to pay their "star" performers (I've been emailed stories from ex-managers looking to poach teachers - stories complaining of them not being paid their due. Little sympathy from me though, all I could think was "Tell me and everyone else about it already!"). Proceed with extreme caution, and preferably a lot of subsidizing savings in the bank (you'll need it, to work worry-free for these intermediate exploiters (that is actually how they are defined in Japanese law)). One thing is for certain, 99% of the time you won't get a good, unbegrudging reference or even any informal acknowledgement no matter how hard you work for these types (and the actual workplace is the school, not the dispatcher's office).
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mfuechec



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, thanks for the information guys. Any thoughts on using a recruiter? Reach to teach got me my job in Taiwan. I do have a degree and tefl btw.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never found it necessary to use a recruiter, so I'm afraid I can't help you out with that one, Mfuechec!
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marley'sghost



Joined: 04 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mfuechec wrote:
Alright, thanks for the information guys. Any thoughts on using a recruiter? Reach to teach got me my job in Taiwan. I do have a degree and tefl btw.

Take a look at www.ohayosensei.com and Gaijinpot, (and of course the job boards here at Dave`s). I don't know of any "recruiters" in Japan. There are dispatch companies and big national chain English schools aplenty though.
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FCE exam prep isn't teacher training, it's exam prep. Your class just happened to be teachers. If you seriously want to get into teacher training you need to improve your qualifications, e.g. DELTA, MA and get a lot more experience under your belt. Although neither will help you much in Japan.
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