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kellrobinson
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 Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:41 pm Post subject: teaching math in China |
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I got a B.S.E. with a minor in Electrical Engineering in May 2012 from a mid-tier state university. The Bachelor of Science in Engineering is an "interdisciplinary" degree. I took a lot of EE classes to get the minor, obviously. I'm 6 credits short of an EE; I opted for the B.S.E. because I got out of school a semester earlier that way. My GPA was 3.98. I'm 56 years old.
My reason for posting now is to get some feedback on a job I noticed at the transitionsabroad web site seeking "ESL, Economics, Business, Science（Calculus/SAT Math/Physics/Chemistry/）Teachers Needed in Guangzhou asap"
http://www.esljobfeed.com/ESLfeed-JobPostingPage.php?read=30978
Under qualifications it asks for "Minimum 1 year teaching experience in related subject." So that's the rub. I don't have any teaching experience.
What are the chances they would go for a white face with an engineering degree over a Chinese math/science teacher with English language skills?
Edit: The link to apply for the job is dead... don't see how I can even apply for it. |
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thatsforsure
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| What are the chances they would go for a white face with an engineering degree over a Chinese math/science teacher with English language skills? |
It does not happen this way. They're either looking to hire a foreign teacher or a local, and it's never a choice between the two. Probably only an international school would be looking to hire a foreign math teacher. A top-level, "real" international school would be looking for a state teaching certification. They pay a lot, something in the range of what teachers make back home. A second- or third-tier international school might hire you to teach math. They pay a lot less, perhaps 12,000 yuan a month for full-time hours. |
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wonderingjoesmith
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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Location: Guangzhou
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| thatsforsure wrote: |
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| What are the chances they would go for a white face with an engineering degree over a Chinese math/science teacher with English language skills? |
...It does not happen this way. They're either looking to hire a foreign teacher or a local, and it's never a choice between the two.... |
Never say never 'cause you may be wrong in this case. There are more and more Chinese educated abroad. They often are cheaper and easier to get along with here.
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ESL, Economics, Business, Science（Calculus/SAT Math/Physics/Chemistry/）Teachers Needed in Guangzhou asap.
Details:
Salary: 10,000-12,000rmb/mo ( ESL Teacher)
12,000- 15,000 rmb/mo (Subject teacher - according to the
teachers qualification and teaching experiences，salary is negotiable)
no more than 22 teaching hours/wk ( 60minutes/ class )
Office hours: 5 hours
Job Location: Guangzhou, Guangdong
Start Date: December2012 or January of 2013
School Type: Private Education Provider
Other Benefits:
Provide work visa
Provide Medical Insurance
Free Chinese lessons
Qualifications:
Native English speaker or Chinese with overseas education or Science teaching experience will be considered if proven to have the same language ability;
Bachelors degree (Economics/Business, Science, Math) or higher
Minimum 1 year teaching experience in related subject
living in Guangzhou city now a plus
Qualified candidates will be asked to write an essay for ESL vacancy or complete a Mock Test for Science vacancy. An interview for a 15-20 minute via face to face or Skype or telephone is required too. |
The link to apply may be dead 'cause this may be a recruiter. Watch out! |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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'Thatsforsure' is correct.
English-speaking subject teachers are really international school people.
Subject teachers in other schools will be Chinese and use Chinese as the language of instruction. |
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wonderingjoesmith
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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Location: Guangzhou
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:23 am Post subject: |
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If you look at the advert, you'll see it's most likely not a licenced international school. Therefore, they are keeping their doors open.  |
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kev7161
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Location: Suzhou, China
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Our school hires a whole passel of English speaking Math and Science majors to teach high school. Couldn't guess at the starting salary, but I think it's somewhere north of 10,000 per month. We are not an international school but a "foreign language" school that dreams of being one. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| wonderingjoesmith wrote: |
ESL, Economics, Business, Science（Calculus/SAT Math/Physics/Chemistry/）Teachers Needed in Guangzhou asap.....
Salary: 12,000- 15,000 rmb/mo (Subject teacher)
no more than 22 teaching hours/wk ( 60minutes/ class )
Office hours: 5 hours
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Other Benefits:
work visa, Medical Insurance, Free Chinese lessons
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subject teacher, 22 hours+5 office hours..........max pay is 15K?
and no mention of apartment provided?
you really want to use this ad to support your argument? |
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wonderingjoesmith
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So, do you think it's a licenced international school that's not fishing for the "most suitable applicant"  |
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kellrobinson
Joined: 22 Apr 2012
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| kev7161 wrote: |
| Our school hires a whole passel of English speaking Math and Science majors to teach high school. |
Are these Westerners or Chinese? (P.S. -- I sent you a PM.) |
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