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Sashadroogie
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kpjf
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Why did I waste my time watching half of this! But, I guess, people like it, and it's meant for them (96%+ likes) not for us, so, what's the problem? 
I think he made a mistake between you and me/I. As far as I know
You and I= subject
You and me = object
He seems to have said it the other way around
E.g. he said "You and me = we"
I think it's:
You and me = us
You and I = we
Then he also wrote "They are pointing at you and I" --> Which I think should be you and me.
Am I wrong?
However, the difference between the two can be kind of confusing, and how many native speakers really know the difference? |
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Sashadroogie
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fluffyhamster
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Urghhhh. That 'pointing' lesson is like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but a remake starring Michael Shannon rather than Donald Sutherland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEStsLJZhzo (He is pointing at her LOL (<Slight spoiler alert>, but this is quite an old movie)).
Seriously, what a waste of time. This sort of "teacher" must think they are God's gift to students, and that the shirt and tie maketh the man. (Students, for goodness' sake, just invest in and actually USE a decent dictionary and a bilingual grammar course!). Basic pronouns are way too simple to be wasting this amount of class~talking time on.
(@Kpjf) As for choice of pronoun case in actual conjoined noun phrase usage (rather than in teacher-winging-it-off-the-top-of-the-head-goo-goo-ga-ga-incidental-patter), try e.g. page 107 of Huddleston & Pullum's A Student's Introduction to English Grammar here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qlxDqB4ldx4C&printsec=frontcover&#v=onepage&q&f=false (search in it for 'coordinations'), and the data from the LGSWE given here http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=881360#881360 ; then, references like Merriam-Webster's (Concise) Dictionary of English Usage are also well worth a look. |
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Teacher in Rome
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I was wondering what he was going to do when he had done "we" and then ran out of board space.
I think this is what they mean when they say "deliver" a lesson. |
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kpjf
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I was wondering what he was going to do when he had done "we" and then ran out of board space.
I think this is what they mean when they say "deliver" a lesson. |
His board was definitely too small!
Thanks for the links 
I haven't read the comments on the other thread yet, but from the link on googlebooks this backs up what I say about me/I. It's interesting that it says many "highly educated" people make the following mistake:
"They invited Sandy and I", instead of "They invited Sandy and me".
I would say if you asked many English native speakers what the difference was they wouldn't know. If you had have asked me 2 years ago for example I mightn't have known and may have made various mistakes with me/I in these kinds of sentences. |
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