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[scot47]

Is it because the USA is morally and ethically going down the tubes ?

[fat_chris]

[spiral78]

....and perhaps they're right!!

[Javelin of Radiance]

The NRA proposal to post armed guards in the hallways is (to put it mildly) interesting. Education officials could hire Blackwater security agents, when they're not deployed in war zones, to patrol the primary school hallways. Sure some of them would be loose cannons and they'd make a few mistakes along the way, Blackwater's been known to waste a few hundred innocents now and then but collateral damage aside the kids would still be safe from the other crazy lunatics with guns. Teachers could even give their classrooms interesting names like "Green Zone," "Little Mogadishu," "North Caucasus," and "Sniper Alley" which, combined with the presence of heavily armed guards could add some authenticity to otherwise boring history lessons.

[fat_chris]

[johnslat]

The NRA's solution: an armed guard in every school. Wow - wonder why no one has ever thought of that before?

Oh wait - they did.

Columbine April 20, 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 12 students and one teacher at Columbine. On the scene that day was Neil Gardner, an armed sheriff�s deputy who had been policing the school for almost two years.

As a CNN report describes, Gardner was eating lunch when he got a call from a custodian that he was needed in the school�s back parking lot. A few minutes later, he encountered Harris and the two exchanged gunfire. Harris was not hit and ran back inside the school. At that point, �Gardner called for additional units to respond to the south parking lot of Columbine High School. � While he was on the radio calling for assistance, five other Jefferson County deputies already were on their way, arriving only minutes after the first report of a �female down� at Columbine High School.� Later, Gardner saw Harris again, through a broken window. Once again, he fired. Once again, he didn�t hit him.

Though it�s possible Gardner distracted Harris enough to prevent additional carnage, that�s ultimately unknowable. What does seem certain is that a single armed security guard had little chance that day of preventing a pair of heavily armed killers from doing what they set out to do."

Regards,
John

[spiral78]

[Javelin of Radiance]

My post above was made with a lot of sarcasm and cynicism. The idea that more guns in schools will prevent more shootings and save lives is, in my opinion, preposterous.

[tttompatz]

So is a "constitutional right to bear arms" but the stupidity of that 200 year old amendment (this isn't 1791) in the modern era hasn't even made anyone blink.

Time for a detente between the parties and reduction of arms in the good 'ol US of A. (fat chance) then allow them to join the ranks of the civilized nations.

By simple comparison:
Canada had 554 (1.6/100,000) homicides.
UK had 722 (1.2/100,000).
France had 682 (1.1/100,000).
Japan had 442 (0.3 / 100,000)

And of the less civilized (3rd world) states:

USA - 12,996 (4.2/100,000).
Yemen - 990 (4.2/100,000).
Philippines - 4,947 (5.4/100,000).
Thailand - 3,307 (4.8/100,000).
India 40,752 (3.4/100,000).
Chile - 541 (3.2/100/000).
Argentina - 1360 (3.4/100,000).
Laos - 279 (4.6/100,000).

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[Yellowrose]

You have the right to practice your religion, but not if your religion involves human sacrifice. You have the right to free speech, but you can still be prosecuted for incitement or conspiracy, and you can be sued for libel. Every right is ...subject to limitation when it begins to threaten others, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that even though there is an individual right to gun ownership, the government can put reasonable restrictions on that right.

http://prospect.org/article/ten-arguments-gun-advocates-make-and-why-theyre-wrong#.UNhN7ge473w.facebook[/url]

[spiral78]

[johnslat]

Dear Yellowrose and spiral78,

Yup, very good examples - especially the first one:

"You have the right to practice your religion, but not if your religion involves human sacrifice."

since the religion of the NRA - The Worship of the Almighty Gun - does involve human sacrifice.

Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/fiore/

[spiral78]

Bushmaster AR assault rifles: Legal in the US.


Kinder Eggs: Illegal in the US:

"There are two reasons why these delicious treats are illegal in the U.S. One reason is the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) claims that the toys are a choking hazard for small children. All of the toys are relatively small, and some contain even tinier pieces that need to be put together. Kinder Eggs have a warning on the package, in several languages, that they are only suitable for ages three and up, which should be enough to un-ban them.

Aside from children potentially choking on the toys, the real reason Kinder Eggs are banned is the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act of 1938. This Act prohibits the embedding of non-food items completely enclosed inside food items, unless the non-edible part has a functioning value. For example a lollipop or popsicle stick is not edible but is a useful handle. This Act was originally put into place to prevent the addition of hazardous items to processed food and has never been changed."

(Kinder Eggs have been related to 7 deaths in 20 years, worldwide)


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[sixthchild]

I see in a side story related to this thread that a certain British presenter on C.N.N has been told by 40,000 residents of America to go back where he came from because he told the director of N.R.A that he was an "unbelieveably stupid man" in an interview. Apparently your opinion does not count for very much if you don't agree that everyone should be armed especially at schools.

Now we have firemen been shot and killed trying to put out fires!