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naturegirl321
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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: Getting docs apostillised for China? |
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Can anyone tell me how to get docs apostillised? I'm at my wits' end and am starting to think that China just isn't in the cards.
My daughter has a CRBA consulate report of birth abroad.
Sent a notarised.copy to the state. They rejected it and said it had to be done at the federal level. Strike one
sent it to WDC. They rejected it saying I had to request ot. Strike two.
Used signnow.com to request it. Send it to washington again. They rejected it saying that they dont apostillise stuff for China. Strike three.
Called the embassy. They dont apostillose stuff. Strike four.
Got it notarised in Korea and took it to get apostillised. They dont apostillise foreign stuff. Stroke five.
This is getting to be ridiculous. I know that China isnt in the Hague agreement..perfectly aware...but the embassy says that on order for them to authenticate stuff first it has to be apostillised.
So how do I get something apostillised when theyre refusing to apostillise it? Anyone done this recently? After they hanged things Nov first? Would love to hear how you got it done. Thanks so much |
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mambawamba
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there,
We had to get both our marriage certificate and our son's birth certificate apostilled for this contract in China, despite having worked and lived in China for a long time we'd never had to do it before, and it was a total nightmare.
We're from the UK so it won't be the process won't be the same but just wanted to say hang in there, it took nearly six weeks of back and forth for us and in in the end we did it through a solicitor (lawyer) and she took responsibility for it. Cost a bit but it was worth it just having someone else worrying about instead of us. Is there anyone you can contact who can perform the same service for you?
Good luck,
Mamba |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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ive been trying since august. I have gotten her korean bc apostillised. Wish id thought of that before. So well see if that works
the uni told me to get a lawyer. I dont think it works like that in the US. plus. They just changed the rules and the website doesnt even reflect the changes. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Found a place! Got her Korean one done here, cost 175 usd. BUt still wanted to get her American one done. A search will get you this page if you look for
chinese embassy apostillisation
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/
Look for chinese embassy agency and you'll get this
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/yisq/t169580.htm
I contacted them all. BIG difference in price. Oasis got back to me. 55 usd for the CRBA and 20 for shipping. Sounds good to me. |
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all-at-sea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Somewhat alarming to read about docs needing to be appostillised for China. I should be receiving my work permit and invitation letter from my school soon, but I wasn't aware that I'd need to appostillise any certs for the embassy.
Has anyone else from the UK had to get this done for their visa? |
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Qaaolchoura
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| all-at-sea wrote: |
Somewhat alarming to read about docs needing to be appostillised for China. I should be receiving my work permit and invitation letter from my school soon, but I wasn't aware that I'd need to appostillise any certs for the embassy.
Has anyone else from the UK had to get this done for their visa? |
It looks like naturegirl's problem is that she needs to apostille the proof of her daughter's American citizenship? Is that right naturegirl?
Since China hasn't signed the Hague Convention, I'd be surprised if they start requiring apostilles as a matter of course. (Amusingly, Turkey has the reverse problem: it has signed the Hague Convention, but they won't allow anything other than a Turkish notary when copies of documents are required.)
~Q |
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mambawamba
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: |
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We also had to apostille our son's birth certificate and our marriage certificate, never had to do it before even though we've been here since 2001.
I asked today and apparently it's now policy for accompanying spouse or children in Shandong.
In the UK process is send docs to the FCO for legalisation,costs �30 per doc, then send it on to the Chinese Embassy who translate and stamp it for a cost of �40 per document.
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/what-we-do/services-we-deliver/legal-services/Legalisation/030-Links/010-How-to-apply/
Be aware you may also be asked to do the extra step of notarisation.
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all-at-sea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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It looks like naturegirl's problem is that she needs to apostille the proof of her daughter's American citizenship? Is that right naturegirl?
Since China hasn't signed the Hague Convention, I'd be surprised if they start requiring apostilles as a matter of course. (Amusingly, Turkey has the reverse problem: it has signed the Hague Convention, but they won't allow anything other than a Turkish notary when copies of documents are required.)
~Q |
That's a relief, Q.
Odd about Turkey. Turkey was one of the countries at the top of my wish list, but the difficulties of obtaining public school/university jobs without being home-certified ruled it out, sadly. Sounds like the visa system might have been a headache too. Beautiful country though.
That's good to know, mamba, thank you. The apostilling seems affordable, although I imagine the costs mount considerably if notarisation becomes necessary. Good luck in Shandong.
I imagined that in China, under communism, there would be a kind of one-size-fits-all, over-arching policy-making culture. On the contrary, it seems the rules vary from province to province, and even city to city. I suppose with a country so vast, and with so many people, it's inevitable. Still, I kind of liked the idea of a one-law-for-all utopia. Oh well. |
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SH_Panda
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Can I just ask, are any of your partners Chinese?
I just wondered if the requirements are the same for locals married to foreigners. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Qaaolchoura wrote: |
It looks like naturegirl's problem is that she needs to apostille the proof of her daughter's American citizenship? Is that right naturegirl?
Since China hasn't signed the Hague Convention, I'd be surprised if they start requiring apostilles as a matter of course. |
No, not quite. And I just found out that it got rejected from the passport office, after the Dept of State telling my mom that they would do it. Yea! six rejections 
I need proof of her being mine! Proof that she's my daughter, nationality isn't the issue, so that I can get her a dependent visa. I know that they're not in the Hague Agreement, BUT, the embassy and consulate want the docs apostillised to prove they're real BEFORE they will authenticate it. . BUT, good news!.. .
seems like CRBA's don't NEED to be apostillised, at least that's what the PP office says, and I can send it directly to the embassy, But I can't really since you have to go in person, so I have to pay 55 bucks to an agent who will take it there for me. So. . . I wasted four months and couldn't start when I was supposed to. Oh well, let's see if the embassy will even authenticate it.
I'll be in JiangSu. |
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mambawamba
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Naturegirl,
Does that mean you're back to square 1?
All-at-sea,
We're all British on UK passports. However, I have friends with Chinese husbands/wives and the visa process seems to have also changed for them.
Mamba |
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all-at-sea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| I'll be in JiangSu. |
naturegirl, sorry to hear that you're coming up against a brick wall. I'll be in Jiangsu too. Hope to see you there if we can both get our paperwork in order! I haven't begun the visa process yet - still waiting on my FEC and letter of invitation - but I'm sure I'll be in for some fun and games when I do. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| mambawamba wrote: |
Naturegirl,
Does that mean you're back to square 1?
All-at-sea,
We're all British on UK passports. However, I have friends with Chinese husbands/wives and the visa process seems to have also changed for them.
Mamba |
Yep, six rejections I think I might be able to get her Korean one apostillised. I'll find out next week. And I fought an agent for her US one, but three depts in the US have said it's IMPOSSIBLE to apostillise stuff for China. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Six rejections...finally got her birth cert apostillised in korea...funny how the korean govt will apostillise docs for non hague agreement countries but the US wont. It is her korean birth cert so i hope it works...its in english though |
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Qaaolchoura
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations, naturegirl! Here's hoping for smooth sailing from here.
One thing:
You had to say what country you wanted to apostille the docs for? It's been awhile since I've gotten an apostille and I've never done it at the federal level, so I didn't remember that part. What would have happened if you'd told them you were apostilling for Korea, then given them to the Chinese embassy?
Again, congrats,
~Q |
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