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D. Merit
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 203
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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How many people aren't being renewed.
The 'mass sackings' and gratuities thing is just the usual internet hysteria.
This is after all just a continuation of the non renewals that started in December 2011.
And obviously one doesn't need management to announce anything to know how many of one's colleagues are leaving.
Information from someone on the ground would be appreciated. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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D. Merit wrote: |
The 'mass sackings' and gratuities thing is just the usual internet hysteria. |
I'm curious too... as little has landed here from around the system. My sources haven't heard anything much as yet.
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Gulezar
Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posts: 483
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:07 am Post subject: Gratuities? |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
Salary raises and merit pay are NOT in the contract. They are additional to the contract and thus are easy to back out of...
Gratuities are a strong contractual obligation in the Gulf countries' labor laws.
Salary raises and gratuities are NOT contractually equivalent at all.
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Previously, in the UAE I had received a gratuity at the end of each three year contract. After three years at my current post, I was surprised to hear that I would get the gratuity at the end of service at the final salary rate. We have not seen increments for quite some time, and to be honest, I don't expect to see any. I wonder what would happen if folks were asked to take a pay cut. Those sweet days are over when I might expect to see a pay raise, and now I even have to consider the possibility of a pay cut.
That said, all these gratuity months are running up quite a debt for the UAE, even if salary increases are not forthcoming.
Do the folks at HCT have to wait until the end of service to get the gratuity? If I were someone tending the balance sheets, I would probably be glad to hear that some folks were deciding to pack up their gratuity and leave.
Here's an idea for any ears out there. Why not give an "early gratuity bonus", much like other countries might "offer an early retirement bonus"? Oh! I forgot the title of the board. Apparently, the UAE can just sack away. |
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helenl
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:52 am Post subject: |
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I have made a formal request for my gratuity at the end of each HCT contract for the simple reason I believe I am better able to invest MY money better that an unfunded benefit. I have been refused each time.
If you have any significant time in and are relying on being paid out in full (whatever you particular reason) you should seriously be re-examining your game plan.
Tubby has been busy with his retirement plan since he assumed his position (who is getting all those neat contracts at the various HCT campuses for improvements, additions, etc.?) And his cohorts, Dr Evil and Doc Howie, will be well looked after no doubt.
The masses (faculty) are much more costly to the system simply because of sheer numbers. They are also more vulnerable because while they would most likely win a court case, they would lose on the costs involved in pursuing the case - this happens a lot in the GCC. |
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robinbanks
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 77
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:09 am Post subject: |
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What's the story with CERT?Are they (almost)autonomous from HCT?How does Tabarra fit in to all this? |
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republocrat
Joined: 14 May 2010 Posts: 70 Location: Stuck in Traffic on Airport Road
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:54 am Post subject: Ahmad T |
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Transparency being what it is at HCT and ADMC, it is merely suspected that the odious slug known as Ahmed T (or just plain Tabbarra) retains an influence over the running of CERT.
Whether this is accurate information or not is difficult to verify, but in general it's best to steer away from the two-faced mollusc.
He is one of Kamali's fawning acolytes, and is quite happy to dump on people if he believes he'll get a pat on the back. |
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2buckets
Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Posts: 515 Location: Middle East
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just heard that 3 in Business Dept. at ADM got their 6 month notice. All long term employees. |
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Eisenhorn
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 146 Location: HCT Land. UAE
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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all at the end of contracts and not being renewed. That is NOT being 'sacked.' That is being let go after you have completed your contract.
There is absolutely nothing that says HCT has to keep bringing you back, even if you have good evals and have been here for a while. These folks have worked here long term and have earned their gratuities and are being let go with plenty of notice to relocate... Much better than it was a few years ago when people were not being told if they would be 'invited' back until AFTER TESOL Arabia.... |
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Eisenhorn
Joined: 25 Oct 2009 Posts: 146 Location: HCT Land. UAE
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:09 am Post subject: |
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So I was speaking to the HR person at my campus this weekend and have been checking with some of the folks who are not being renewed to verify... there appears to be a move within HCT to move out anyone who is 60 and are completing their third contracts. I can say that at my campus nearly everyone who hasn't been offered a new contract all fit this description. They are 60 or over and have been at HCT for three contracts. (there are a few other people leaving, not being 'invited' back, but this seems to hold true.)
I have a feeling that this is across the board as a cost cutting measure. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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That confirms what I just heard from someone this weekend. It is not just Foundations teachers, it is also content. Sadly for those involved, it does make sense from a budgetary angle.
But what they really need to do is ax about half of the management layers. It appeared that they started to do that in Dubai last year. They make more than teachers.
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TheMagician
Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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The question of gratuities is not just for HCT but all Federal employees. Not a question of not paying it but rolling it into a pension to be paid some time in the future. Makes perfect sense for UAE and would resolve a lot of short term cash flow problems. Not sure I buy the top of the scale argument,why employ families with three kids and all the additional costs if the budget is that tight. |
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