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Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most prestige?
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bradwelljackson



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:02 am    Post subject: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most prestige? Reply with quote

I'm seeking to get trained as a TEFL teacher and I wold like to know which teacher training school in the world has the best reputation.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most presti Reply with quote

bradwelljackson wrote:
I'm seeking to get trained as a TEFL teacher and I wold like to know which teacher training school in the world has the best reputation.


Top 3 in terms of brand recognition and quality assurance:
CELTA (Cambridge university ESOL) is probably the best known
Trinity cert TESOL
SIT cert TESOL (the people who train the Peace Corps).

After that the standard to watch for is a 120 hour course with a minimum of 6 hours of observed practicum with real students.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most presti Reply with quote

Are you talking about the certs?

Whenever I hear someone name the "big three" it seems to be CELTA (British), Trinity (British), and SIT (American). Whenever someone talks about only two, they leave off the last of those. I chalk that up to British snobbery, though since I haven't taken all three I can't be sure. Maybe the Brits really are the only ones who can teach teachers. (Incidentally a previous thread established that the British Council, which is funded by the British taxpayer, only hires those who did the CELTA or Trinity. However where private companies are concerned, this doesn't seem to be an issue.)

You see a lot of "CELTA or equivalent" stuff in job ads, which I take to mean "120 hour onsite teaching course with observed practice using real students." I assume in those cases the CELTA is simply the most memorable brand name. (You also see a lot of "CELTA, Trinity or equivalent" or "CELTA, Trinity, SIT or equivalent" type ads, and they all seem to amount to the same thing.)

I suppose bottom line is if neither money nor location is an issue, take the CELTA, since it's the one every employer will know by name. If either if those is an issue, take the closest 120+ hour onsite course with at least six hours of observed teaching practice, unless you really want to work for the British Council, in which case take the nearest CELTA or Trinity course.

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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most presti Reply with quote

bradwelljackson wrote:

I'm seeking to get trained as a TEFL teacher and I wold like to know which teacher training school in the world has the best reputation.


Are you referring to TEfL certificate courses, undergraduate degree programs, graduate certificate programs, or graduate degree programs? Different answers for each of these categories.

I'm going to guess that you are probably asking about short (120 hour) entry-level TEFL certificate courses. For this type of course, the answer is CELTA, followed by Trinity and SIT. This order is by reputation, which is what you are asking, not necessarily quality.

Also note that there are many small, independent course providers offering training as good, or even better, than these three well-known courses. But again, these are the best known as reliable, externally moderated teacher training courses.

Let us know if you meant to ask about highly regarded degree programs.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CELTA, no contest. I have SIT and it has never been a problem and is a fine certificate, as is Trinity. As far as the most requested and most recognizable though, it's CELTA all the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most presti Reply with quote

Qaaolchoura wrote:
Are you talking about the certs?

Whenever I hear someone name the "big three" it seems to be CELTA (British), Trinity (British), and SIT (American). Whenever someone talks about only two, they leave off the last of those. I chalk that up to British snobbery, though since I haven't taken all three I can't be sure. Maybe the Brits really are the only ones who can teach teachers. (Incidentally a previous thread established that the British Council, which is funded by the British taxpayer, only hires those who did the CELTA or Trinity. However where private companies are concerned, this doesn't seem to be an issue.)

You see a lot of "CELTA or equivalent" stuff in job ads, which I take to mean "120 hour onsite teaching course with observed practice using real students." I assume in those cases the CELTA is simply the most memorable brand name. (You also see a lot of "CELTA, Trinity or equivalent" or "CELTA, Trinity, SIT or equivalent" type ads, and they all seem to amount to the same thing.)

I suppose bottom line is if neither money nor location is an issue, take the CELTA, since it's the one every employer will know by name. If either if those is an issue, take the closest 120+ hour onsite course with at least six hours of observed teaching practice, unless you really want to work for the British Council, in which case take the nearest CELTA or Trinity course.

~Q

No, it is not British snobbery. If you take a good look at the advertisements, you will find that many employers in different countries only specify the CELTA and Trinity. So it makes sense, if you are not sure where you want to go, to train on a course which is accepted everywhere, as opposed to a course which is not.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Which TEFL training school worldwide has the most presti Reply with quote

coledavis wrote:

No, it is not British snobbery. If you take a good look at the advertisements, you will find that many employers in different countries only specify the CELTA and Trinity. So it makes sense, if you are not sure where you want to go, to train on a course which is accepted everywhere, as opposed to a course which is not.

Outside the British Council, I don't think I've seen any ads that specifically require only the CELTA or Trinity, in the sense of saying "CELTA or Trinity TESOL only," usually saying things like "CELTA, Trinity, or equivalent" or "teaching certification (e.g. CELTA, Trinity)." I've seen a few that specify the CELTA only, but I at least once applied to a job that asked for the CELTA with my SIT TESOL cert and got a response, indicating (as I suspect is generally the case) a tendency towards a genericized trademark use in such cases.

That said, I don't doubt that such jobs exist (presumably mostly for the EU) however I stand by my point about British snobbery. One thing that I've noticed is that it seems that whenever a school has a foreigner in charge of management/hiring, they're almost always British (I've encountered one Canadian doing the hiring in Korea, one American co-hiring with a Briton in Indonesia, and no Aussies, Irish, or Kiwis in such a position anywhere). I don't know why it seems like Brits end up with about 95% of the TESOL management jobs (it makes some sense in Turkey where they far outnumber us Americans, and everybody else for that matter, but less sense in other parts of the world, such as the Asia-Pacific region). If I were the betting kind I'd say that if you showed me any job that has a genuine British-cert-only requirement, investigation will show that there was a Briton involved in the establishment of said requirement.

Without taking all three, I can't say that the CELTA and Trinity aren't substantially different from the SIT TESOL, or many other such course out there, however until somebody provides me a convincing argument (preferably a controlled study) that those courses are substantially better at preparing teachers than the one the American government uses to train the Peace Corps, I reserve the right to suspect snobbery. (While most Brits I've met abroad are friendly, the fact is that I've run into far more anti-Americanism of varying degrees of openness from Brits in Turkey than from Koreans in Korea, or really from group of people anywhere. I imagine that it's far worse in the EU, which the Brits see as even more "No colonials