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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Earning a BEd or MEd Reply with quote
I want to earn either a BEd or MEd. I have a MA in TESOL from a US university (not online). I've been teaching university students for the past 15 years but want to teach in the public school system in Canada or the US. To do this, is just a BEd required or would a MEd be better?

Also, to better qualify to enter a BEd/MEd program, would overseas teaching of kids/teens be better? If so, I'm thinking of spending a year teaching in a school in China.

Where can I find more info about this (BEd/MEd programs)?

Im
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Whether you teach in US or Canada depends on where your citizenship is from, unless you've got passports from both countries, of course. Extremely rare for Canada to hire (and jump through the visa hoops) for an American teacher, and vice versa. Regardless of quals.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you want to teach in a Canadian public high school or elementary school, you must have public school certification AND be a Canadian citizen (there is no way you will get hired by the government as a US citizen as public school teachers here are fighting for jobs). If you can get a work permit in some other manner (marriage or something else) then go for it but that's it.

The Canadian system is different than the US - there are no "fast track" options. If you wanted to do a BEd here, you would be doing a full 4 year degree (3 years if you are lucky, depending on the university).

McGill University offers an MA in Teaching that comes iwth public certification but again, you won't get a job without being able to legally work in Canada.

If you are referring to private schools, then again, your citizenship is the problem, your MA TESOL would be fine (unless you want to teach youth, then again, you need certification)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:09 pm    Post subject: Teacher certification to work in other provinces Reply with quote
Can the McGill certification be used in other provinces public schools?

Are there universities like McGill that offer an MA in education to be certified on provinces other than Quebec? I'm thinking of Alberta, BC, or Ontario.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Earning a BEd or MEd Reply with quote
Imdramayu wrote:
I want to earn either a BEd or MEd. I have a MA in TESOL from a US university (not online). I've been teaching university students for the past 15 years but want to teach in the public school system in Canada or the US. To do this, is just a BEd required or would a MEd be better?

Also, to better qualify to enter a BEd/MEd program, would overseas teaching of kids/teens be better? If so, I'm thinking of spending a year teaching in a school in China.

Where can I find more info about this (BEd/MEd programs)?

Im

Do you hold two passports? In most school districts in the US a Master's Degree (in any subject) is now required anyway. I'd be smart and get it in something useful like adminstration or counseling. I'd never get an MA in Education as you can't use it for anything if you want to get out of the classroom (there are lots of interesting jobs in school districts which require an admin MA for example)
But since you already have your MA you don't need another one. You also don't need a BA in education. You need to pass a state basic skills test then a subject matter test in either general elementary education or a specific subject like history etc. then you take classes towards your teaching certificate when you finish your coursework plus student teaching (supervised teaching) you send it to your state and they give you a teaching cert. Each state has different rules/classes and requirements.
The fact that you have been teaching university level overseas for 15 years is excellent experience. Teaching is teaching. I don't think teaching children in China will help much if it's just ESL. If it's a self-contained classroom then yes but you'd need a state teaching credential to get a job like that.
If you want to teach in the US probably the biggest concern you'll have to address in interviews is how you will handle classroom management (i.e. discipline)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Teacher certification to work in other provinces Reply with quote
Imdramayu wrote:
Can the McGill certification be used in other provinces public schools?

Are there universities like McGill that offer an MA in education to be certified on provinces other than Quebec? I'm thinking of Alberta, BC, or Ontario.

Im


BC does not (I am from BC). I don't think the other provinces do - I think this is a very new concept here in Canada.

Yes, it transfers, although it may take time to deal with the red tape.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Masters to get into public school system in Canada Reply with quote
Ixchel, is what you are describing only in the US? It seems the US is more enlightened. Canada is still in the BEd dark ages.

Since I only hold Canadian passport, I'd be be looking at the Cdn scene. Is McGill the only univ in Cda which offers a Masters as a gateway to the public school system?

Im
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Masters to get into public school system in Canada Reply with quote
Imdramayu wrote:
Ixchel, is what you are describing only in the US? It seems the US is more enlightened. Canada is still in the BEd dark ages.

Since I only hold Canadian passport, I'd be be looking at the Cdn scene. Is McGill the only univ in Cda which offers a Masters as a gateway to the public school system?

Im

The Canadian and US systems are a little different and keep in mind that rules also vary from state to state and even in the same state in some years they bend the rules depending on how many teachers they have and how many they need. Canada pays better though.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some would argue that Canada has higher standards Cool
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