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What's the least I should expect to get paid.
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dudeteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: What's the least I should expect to get paid. Reply with quote

As an experienced native speaker, Journalist, CELTA qualified, 13 years of experience and an ex NATO Journalist/Editor what is the least I should accept from a school.

I realize that expenses differ from city to city but I would like some sort of gauge.

I am thinking not less than 10 000 CNY plus an apt or about 2000 dollars.

Feedback please?

Dude
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4800 and an apartment with everything included (water, electricity), airfare reimbursement, travel allowance (1000 or so per semester), all the document stuff paid for (visa, FEC, health check). That's my bottom line, anyway.

This is for government universities.
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dudeteacher



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
4800 and an apartment with everything included (water, electricity), airfare reimbursement, travel allowance (1000 or so per semester), all the document stuff paid for (visa, FEC, health check). That's my bottom line, anyway.

This is for government universities.


Can one save on that?
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Javelin of Radiance



Joined: 01 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dudeteacher wrote:
johntpartee wrote:
4800 and an apartment with everything included (water, electricity), airfare reimbursement, travel allowance (1000 or so per semester), all the document stuff paid for (visa, FEC, health check). That's my bottom line, anyway.

This is for government universities.


Can one save on that?

The short answer to your question is yes, but not much. Questions like the one you've asked can never be answered the same for any two people. Why not refer to the thread on Monthly Living Expenses for a bit more info?


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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can one save on that?


Yeah, definitely. I wouldn't be here if I couldn't. I make more than 4800, but that's about the least I'll even consider.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:16 am    Post subject: Re: What's the least I should expect to get paid. Reply with quote

dudeteacher wrote:
As an experienced native speaker, Journalist, CELTA qualified, 13 years of experience and an ex NATO Journalist/Editor what is the least I should accept from a school.

I realize that expenses differ from city to city but I would like some sort of gauge.

I am thinking not less than 10 000 CNY plus an apt or about 2000 dollars.

Feedback please?

Dude


more info needed.

will you be teaching your basic oral engrish? if so expect 5000/month plus
housing at a university, average 16 hours per week. or you could go with
a private language school at 10-12000/month without housing, and an
average 25 hours per week. bigger bucks to be had at international schools.

but why limit yourself to oral engrish? why not teach a subject, like, um,
journalism?

sisu has a degree program in bilingual journalism..."the journalism program
in English include such courses as English News Writing and Reporting,
English Feature Writing, English News Editing, Theories of Mass Media and
Media Management, International Communication, History of Western
Journalism and Western Culture, standing for 36 credits...."
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Bat_Guano



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught in Xinjiang in a public middle school for ten months (2010-11) at a salary of 4500 RMB per month, plus apartment, utilities paid, visa/FE Cert/ Residence Permit covered, airfare reimbursed at 8000 RMB after contract. That's a pretty low salary as far as I know (not for University jobs, apparently, it's about average), but it was my first teaching job (overseas orotherwise) and I came with a B.A., passport, few years working as a reading tutor at schools in the US as an u/g, not much else. Since my housing and bills were paid for, I spent as little as 1000-1500 yuan on food, cheap beer and even cheaper cigarettes (I really miss my Chinese cigarettes), and saved the rest in the bank. Then again, that was in a small town in the desert where there is very little worth spending money on and the cost of what is there (product, service) are low. It wouldn't go far in Beijing or Shanghai, but starting salaries should be much higher in those places. With your experience I'd think you could do better than 5000 RMB for sure but as far as what is "acceptable" and what you can save on, all that depends on many factors relating to the individual and varies a lot from one to another... so... dunno. Smile

(edit) I am currently teaching in a private school in Indonesia at double the salary I had in Xinjiang, and have an offer on the table for a 40% raise if I will stay another two years (= about 1600 USD after tax per month if I stay). I don't know whether I will take it as I'd like to go back to China or elsewhere for awhile, and I don't really want to stay here another two years. BUT I definitely can't afford to work for $700 USD / month anymore as I've gotten married and have to support my wife and also (partially) her family, plus we are trying for a wee'un Smile (= I have to be more "grown up and responsible" about stuff - ugh Crying or Very sad ) Whether you have dependents and or other obligations would possibly have a lot of bearing on what is an "acceptable" salary too...


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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:27 am    Post subject: