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kungfuman
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| I like my school so I am going to ask them to get me a 2 year RP when renewal time comes around. |
From what I understand, a two year contract must be filed with the request. |
That's ok. I like my school, my job, and my boss. I could see myself staying here for another 2 years. |
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Absolutely, I sign 2 year contract without the slightest thought. I get two year RPs and rental agreements. It is far easier when trying to do things that require 3 or more months on current RP's. |
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bestteacher2012
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The only drawback for us is we have to start the process from Square One - new medical check but no HK run as we just have to go to the PSB with the proper docs etc. This has been proven by the guy in the desk next to me who detailed what he had to do for his new RP. School paid all the fees as well.. |
Does this mean you went to the school on a tourist visa and then it was changed to a residence permit without leaving the country? I thought most places didn't allow this anymore. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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^ No. it means I was here already and finished a contract where I had an RP and they just got me a new RP and I had to do a medical then a trip to the PSB for a new RP.
When school resumes I'll check with my boss about my future there. |
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dudeteacher
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Interesting thread, I was just discussing a simliar topic on the Thailand board.
I have two Canadian mates who have College Diplomas (not degrees). They were gung ho over Thailand and although they are experienced and native speakers seems there's very little chance of them getting a good job there.
However, judging from this thread there is a chance of getting work in some parts of China.
I've been approached by head hunters telling me I can work in China without needing a degree for as much as 1500 dollars. I assumed it was rubbish.
Was I correct?
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:52 am Post subject: |
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If you are adverse to jaywalking, littering, filling in the incorrect information on your car insurance, speeding...
Then never work in China without a degree.
In the city I lived in for a decade, only one teacher (me) had anything over a high school diploma. |
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NoBillyNO
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Does this mean you went to the school on a tourist visa and then it was changed to a residence permit without leaving the country? I thought most places didn't allow this anymore. |
I had had an RP here two year ago and came into China last march on a L visa which was converted in Beijing to an RP without leaving the country. I Work for a uni in Britain but am sponsored by a good uni in Beijing and this may have had some impact. The first time I came to china 2000 I also had an L visa even though I had been given paperwork for a z, I didn't want the obligation if I didn't want to stay. It was also converted. I did come over through a recruiter although he was a white American who recruited and was payed for by the school. I don't think I would take advice given as the god's honest or the last word, but caution is always the basis for this kind of venture. |
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dudeteacher
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
If you are adverse to jaywalking, littering, filling in the incorrect information on your car insurance, speeding...
Then never work in China without a degree.
In the city I lived in for a decade, only one teacher (me) had anything over a high school diploma. |
I think what you are trying to say is that you can work here without a Uni Degree.
However, a lot can change in 10 years.
I am guessing if it had, would say so.
I notice quite a few ads on this site from China saying that you don't need a Uni degree. Some even go as far as to say that you don't need a TESOL Certificate. I guess you would be paid accordingly.
I did however notice one or two that said that in lieu of a degree, they would accept proper post secondary education. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:21 am Post subject: |
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I once met a real nice guy who was teaching in Suzhou. He was 21 and presented his 4 yr university degree to the school for to obtain his RP - visa.
Once at his house he showed me how fast it was for him to Photoshop one.
And no one ever questioned the relation between his age and his degree. |
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| He was 21 and presented his 4 yr university degree....And no one ever questioned the relation between his age and his degree. |
why should they? it's not uncommon to receive your degree at 21, or
sometimes 20. i got mine a couple months after my 21st birfday.
could have gotten it a semester earlier, had i not been working part time
jobs to pay for school and that summer tour through europe. |
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GreatApe
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| Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:44 am Post subject: |
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@ the OP ...
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The research should have quickly led you to the conclusion that yes, a bachelors degree is one of the legal requirements for the correct visa and working permit in China. That is a national requirement and doesnt vary according to province.
Are people working in China without a degree? Yes. Some may be working on the wrong visa type. Obviously that may come with some risks. Others may be working on the correct visa type, but one that has been obtained by fraudulent means. |
@ everyone who posted about a 2 year RP ... I am going to follow your lead and try that for myself. THANK YOU all for the information!
A two year RP would give me much needed peace-of-mind.
--GA |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| GreatApe wrote: |
@ everyone who posted about a 2 year RP ... I am going to follow your lead and try that for myself. THANK YOU all for the information!
A two year RP would give me much needed peace-of-mind.
--GA |
I talked to my boss about the future - my contract expires May 31 - as does my RP. He said yeah they like me etc etc so in April I will ask about a 2 year rp - even if it means signing a 2 year contract. I MAY have to forgo the raise at the annual contract renewal though.
On a side note - they fired a teacher before the Spring Festival - and he said they didn't cancel his RP - allowed him to stay here till the end of July. |
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7969
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| On a side note - they fired a teacher before the Spring Festival - and he said they didn't cancel his RP - allowed him to stay here till the end of July. |
Can you tell us why this guy was fired? It happens so seldom here that there must have been some extraordinary reasons. Usually schools seem to let bad employees see out their current contract and not invite them back. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: |
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^ I was surpirsed at this as well as my school is pretty well run and the boss is very laidback and hands-off.
The teacher succumbed to ol laowai habits - getting drunk and missing classes w/o a good reason.
He received a warning letter but kept missing classes. I only found this out when we had the meeeting after Spring festival before classes resumed and there was a new teacher at the desk across from me. |
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sPinkomania
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| It's definitely possible to work here (even with a z-visa sometimes) without a BA out in the West of China. Of course some part of the process isn't legit. I have worked for a school where high-school diplomas were accepted. |
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