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Cultural Clash between NS and NNS teachers
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fledex



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you had two teachers of the same ability and qualifications - which teacher would you pick - the native speaker or the non-native speaker?

The answer is obvious!


The native/non-native distinction is a fallacy to begin with. However, if I had two equally qualified teachers from different countries or regions of the world, I would choose the one who is from the country or region where most of the students are from. I have found that this works best when learning another language. This has always been my experience.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
revenger2013 wrote:


If you had two teachers of the same ability and qualifications - which teacher would you pick - the native speaker or the non-native speaker?

The answer is obvious!


The native/non-native distinction is a fallacy to begin with. However, if I had two equally qualified teachers from different countries or regions of the world, I would choose the one who is from the country or region where most of the students are from. I have found that this works best when learning another language. This has always been my experience.


So, if there was two teachers of Arabic with equal qualifications and experience, one from Egypt and a native speaker and the other an American and a non-native speaker. You would pick the American?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight! 99% wouldn't though.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

revenger2013 wrote:
fledex wrote:
revenger2013 wrote:


If you had two teachers of the same ability and qualifications - which teacher would you pick - the native speaker or the non-native speaker?

The answer is obvious!


The native/non-native distinction is a fallacy to begin with. However, if I had two equally qualified teachers from different countries or regions of the world, I would choose the one who is from the country or region where most of the students are from. I have found that this works best when learning another language. This has always been my experience.


So, if there was two teachers of Arabic with equal qualifications and experience, one from Egypt and a native speaker and the other an American and a non-native speaker. You would pick the American?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight! 99% wouldn't though.


Even when I was in Saudi, my Arabic teacher was an American. Plus, I would consider him a Native Egyptian Arabic speaker as well. The distinctions are fallacies. By the way, he was also an English teacher, that I would consider native English speaking. This has also been true of some of my Chinese teachers. All were excellent teaching two languages.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fledex wrote:
revenger2013 wrote:
fledex wrote:
revenger2013 wrote:


If you had two teachers of the same ability and qualifications - which teacher would you pick - the native speaker or the non-native speaker?

The answer is obvious!


The native/non-native distinction is a fallacy to begin with. However, if I had two equally qualified teachers from different countries or regions of the world, I would choose the one who is from the country or region where most of the students are from. I have found that this works best when learning another language. This has always been my experience.


So, if there was two teachers of Arabic with equal qualifications and experience, one from Egypt and a native speaker and the other an American and a non-native speaker. You would pick the American?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight! 99% wouldn't though.


Even when I was in Saudi, my Arabic teacher was an American. Plus, I would consider him a Native Egyptian Arabic speaker as well. The distinctions are fallacies. By the way, he was also an English teacher, that I would consider native English speaking. This has also been true of some of my Chinese teachers. All were excellent teaching two languages.


We aren't talking about nationality per se - we are talking about native and non-native speakers and your Arabic teacher was a native speaker!
It doesn't matter a jot if he is an American or not.

Plenty - and I mean plenty of non-native speaking teachers make mistakes with the language they are trying to teach and I would include myself if I tried to teach Spanish. To say that non-native English teachers are better than native English speaking teachers as a whole is complete and utter nonsense.
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