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University Policy: Overnight and Permanent Guests?

 
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rioux



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:00 am    Post subject: University Policy: Overnight and Permanent Guests? Reply with quote

I guess it is up to the university how flexible they want to be concerning this issue.
What do you think a fair policy would be for overnight and permanent guests staying in an apartment of a foreign teacher within the university campus?

I knew one guy that insisted on having his girlfriend move in soon after he arrived while another guy let his friend stay for a few days.

Where is the line drawn between being acceptable and being unacceptable?
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should there be a line drawn?

I suppose you could argue that the school is providing you a apartment so they may have objections of people LIVING there for free which I can kind of understand, and I would certainly let them know or ask permission beforehand. I have lived with a girl in China and I asked the school beforehand, they had no objections. A teacher at my current school lives with his gf and as far as I know, it was made clear before hiring........actually.......that girls "connections" was the reason he was hired so bleh.

GUESTS, I don't think the school should complain. If they are staying for a week or just visiting whatever then it seems stupid to make a big deal out of. My school requires me to pay 10yuan a night for guests which I think it beyond stupid. They say it's for additional electricity/water usage but, if I stay here by myself and leave all the lights on and the water running constantly, nothing is said about it. As soon as a 2nd person stays the night, I have to pay 10yuan........doesn't make sense.

Guests at my place also have to sign in with their ID card before being allowed entrance.

Unless a guest is staying for a prolonged period of time, I don't think there's any need to make a big deal out of it.
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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a (typical?) university contract.
A lot of the wording on these contracts can be off-putting when you first read them. Not sure how rigorously they are enforced though.

I had a foreign friend stay with me and the FAO wanted me to fill out some silly form that required endless details. I didn't bother and he just forgot about it.

Ⅶ.Visitors, Overnight Absences and Travel
1. All visitors are asked to register at the guardhouse. Our staff and students are required to show their pictured ID cards issued by the university. Outside visitors are required to show their ID cards issued by the Public Security Bureau. The security guards have the right to decline those visitors without valid certificates. If Party B�s parents, spouses, or children come to visit, the application must be submitted for approval in advance for them to stay overnight. Other visitors are suggested to leave before 11:00 pm and should not stay overnight.
2. Please advise Party A beforehand if Party B plans to be off campus overnight.
3. If Party B�s friends invite Party B to have an outing or pay a visit, please keep Party A well informed for the sake of safety.
4. Please make a request at least two days in advance if Party B plans to travel during holidays or vacations. Please report to Party A the travel itinerary so that Party A can ascertain if those areas are open to foreigners.
5. If Party B stays outside overnight or leave the campus beyond a period of 24 hours, please notify Party A formally. Party B should maintain safety and bear all responsibilities for the actions. Please remember to close the doors and windows, turn off gas and electricity power, and remember to take necessary identification cards.
6. If Party B�s relatives or friends come to visit for an extended period, please inform Party A in advance. Only the spouse or relatives of Party B are permitted to live in the apartment for an extended duration.
7. Party B should take full responsibility for any troubles caused by his or her visitors. Party A is not responsible for theft or damage of the personal items, which may arise from the visitors.
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hilena_westb



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow the rules given to you or resign. If not stated in the contract, it's still enforceable as I am sure there is also a clause that states you must follow all the rules and regulations of the university; which is how they cover themselves for any rule they create but forget to inform you of. I refuse to live on any campus as my life is my life, not "dictatable" by the employer; in my opinion anyway. There are a multitude of reasons they have enacted such rules, including: legal responsibility, liability, social and moral values, laws regarding non-married folk from living together, and so on. Again, as many threads imply, if you can't follow the rules, then you don't belong here. And so, I have my own home, married, a new child, and such. Therefore, nobody controls my life, trust me.
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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hilena_westb wrote:
trust me.


I'm a doctor Smile
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

n/m

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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hilena_westb wrote:
.....married....... Therefore, nobody controls my life.....




Laughing
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hilena_westb wrote:
Therefore, nobody controls my life, trust me.



She's a rebellious outlaw that lives by no mans rules. A doctor who ruled hospitals with wreckless abandon, until she was cast out into the lost world of China. She is............Hilena: The Road Warrior ::begin theme music::

Teach me how to be oh so cool plx.
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