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likwid_777

Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 411 Location: NA
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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I think some of us younger fellas overestimate our self made retirement package. "Retiring to a warmer clime at 59".. Yeah, for how long? I've heard many here speaking of this. Reality is, age sneaks up on you quicker than anything.
Have some empathy for the older chaps on here, we'll all be there soon as you can blink. If we are so lucky. |
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DirtGuy
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 529
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Retire at 59? I can't help but wonder in what alternate universe people who think this live? I fully expect to be working in one form or another well into my 70s and maybe even longer if I stay alive that long. I may never be able to retire. I'd venture to say that most people reading this are in the same boat.
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Javelin of Radiance

Joined: 01 Jul 2009 Posts: 1187 Location: The West
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry my apologies. Because Dirtyguy is broke and has to work till the day he dies, all others must cancel their retirement plans too  |
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creeper1
Joined: 24 Aug 2010 Posts: 481 Location: New Taipei City, Taiwan
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:21 am Post subject: sad |
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What a tragic thread.
Guys in their mid 40s still broke.
Guys thinking of staying in China till they drop dead.
Guys earning 5000 RMB a month. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:32 am Post subject: Re: sad |
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What a tragic thread.
Guys in their mid 40s still broke.
Guys thinking of staying in China till they drop dead.
Guys earning 5000 RMB a month. |
What a silly, negative contribution. |
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DirtGuy
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 529
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:36 am Post subject: |
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NS,
Couldn't agree more.
If you want to call anything "tragic", think of the system in the US that has put so many people like me into this situation. I do not regret for one minute my decision to come to China, but I do regret what has happened to the "American dream" in which I once believed.
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mike w
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 1071 Location: Beijing building site
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Guys in their mid 40s still broke.
Guys thinking of staying in China till they drop dead. Exclamation
Guys earning 5000 RMB a month. |
That's a pretty pathetic generalisation about people, many of whom you know nothing about.
Here's a little enlightenment for you:
I'm way past my mid-40's (I'm 60) - and I am a long way from being broke.
I happen to like living here (so does my Chinese wife)
I earn over RMB5000 in one week, not one month.
Don't generalise about things when you have so few facts. |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 656 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:49 am Post subject: |
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The American dream is alive and well. Watching my portfolio grow this past year has been a blessing thanks to the US market rebound in the past couple of years.
Using China as a retirement plan was never really on my radar. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| DirtGuy wrote: |
NS,
Couldn't agree more.
If you want to call anything "tragic", think of the system in the US that has put so many people like me into this situation. I do not regret for one minute my decision to come to China, but I do regret what has happened to the "American dream" in which I once believed.
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Have met and worked with so many Americans who are refugees from the stalled economy at home.
Graduates with decent degrees who cannot get work and older people left with nothing after the housing bubble burst.
This forum should be a mutual help centre not a flaming ground. |
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DirtGuy
Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 529
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Just got back from a meeting with my immediate boss and we talked about next year. Aside from dancing around the money question, she told me that BOTH the 5 years in one province rule and any sort of age limit can be overlooked if the school wants you. This is in Henan Province and your experience may be different.
What I would hope for the readers of this thread is if you are in your 40s or 50s or even older, there is work here. China is not a retirement plan but it is a work plan for people who still have something productive to give. Don't listen to the naysayers and go for it - you will get a job. The best part of all is that there is as much work in the country as you want and you will save bank if that is your goal.
The one caveat to the above is this place is weird. However, given what so many of us have been though in the States, if you can handle that, then you can handle China. I have a far better life in almost every aspect than what I gave up in the States. Some posters consider me a "loser" because of that viewpoint but that is their problem and not mine. I'm too busy working and saving and enjoying myself to care what they think. YOU could be in the same position.
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NoBillyNO

Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| I have a far better life in almost every aspect than what I gave up in the States. |
Due, no doubt, to your attitude! |
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hilena_westb
Joined: 13 Nov 2012 Posts: 130
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| While I teach language part-time at my university (I teach in a different school of the university full-time), the language department has 11 teachers, 4 of whom are over the age of 60; the oldest 71. |
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NoBillyNO

Joined: 11 Jun 2012 Posts: 1762
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| There maybe snow on the rooftop but there is still fire in the furnace.... |
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it'snotmyfault
Joined: 14 May 2012 Posts: 527
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Many a good tune played on an old fiddle... |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 656 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| When I think of people packing up and coming to China sight unseen I see it as more ballsy and adventurous rather than loserish...Let people think what they want. |
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