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JamaicaBob
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:25 am Post subject: Saudi - Student Centered Classrooms? |
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Do the heads of English departments at Saudi Universities expect their teachers to run student centered classrooms using modern CELTA and other ESL approaches, and are teachers evaluated on this?
Please be frank. I'm interested in knowing "the real world" of Saudi classrooms, not an idealized one. I'm trying to understand expectations vs. reality.
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scot47

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abayababy
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The expectation where I work is that you will run a student-centered class using the communicative language teaching approach. The reality is that these students are not capable even of arranging themselves into a circle. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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veiledsentiments

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Thanks for the good laugh John. The tape of the young women reminded me of the many real characters hidden under all those black veils.
Now... back to the topic...
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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I liked that guy front left on the dance line and his gangsta crotch-grab. Doubt that's what he intended
Oh, sorry. Topic.
Student-centred. I teach 'em outside their natural habitat. We can sorta make them blend in with the rest of the students, who are used to it. Would be very difficult in an all-Saudi classroom. |
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JamaicaBob
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Thanks for your comments. What I hear from guys so far is that teaching Saudi students in modern student centered and communicative ways is not the reality for the classroom in any strong way.
So, frankly speaking, when you are evaluated every so often by the department head or whoever does the observation of you, is this simply a time to be given some encouragement and perhaps a couple ideas to use in the classroom, with no real fears of being fired for not have a solidly run communicative style classroom? |
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cmp45

Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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JamaicaBob wrote: |
Thanks for your comments. What I hear from guys so far is that teaching Saudi students in modern student centered and communicative ways is not the reality for the classroom in any strong way.
So, frankly speaking, when you are evaluated every so often by the department head or whoever does the observation of you, is this simply a time to be given some encouragement and perhaps a couple ideas to use in the classroom, with no real fears of being fired for not have a solidly run communicative style classroom? |
I think alot depends on the institution, the number and level of students. In general, most Saudi students are not used to student centered lessons/activities, but that doesn't mean the teacher should shy away from implementing such teaching strategies. I think alot of universities/ colleges like to see you using (or at least attempting / experimenting with) a variety of teaching methods.
In my opinion, if you consistently utilize a variety of teaching methods you stand a better chance of demonstrating your teaching skills during a class observation.
If you have never introduced a student centered lesson then all of a sudden do so during a class observation you could screw up big time. |
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