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laylow · Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 37

Yes, I mean visas. I'm sorry but I don't understand your quote John and how it relates to my question. I do realize that it is illegal to work on a business visa and yes I am aware that some employers send you to another country to renew the business visa while others find a way for you to stay in country while renewing your visa. But my main question relates to someone referring to the 'washing of your passport' which I believe simply means get a new passport in your home country before either 1) getting your permanent visa prior to arrival and iguama or 2) business visa before flight.

I am only asking if the recently installed fingerprint 'machines' make 'washing your passport' useless as I thought one of the purposes of the fingerprint scanning was to combat teachers from simply getting a new passport to overcome not having a NOC.

And my other question is related to ICEAT and the latest on the litigation that the OP mentioned and this specific teacher who was supposedly blacklisted because she was in Saudi working on a business visa.

teachr11 · Joined: 23 Aug 2012 Posts: 39

CANDLES · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:28 am Post subject: Saudi Arabia

Would'nt work for those wretched companies. EDEX & ICEAT....have to learn from them on how to be unprofessional.

johnslat · Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:36 am Post subject:

Dear laylow,

laylow: "In addition, there are some employers who (whether legally or not) find a way to renew passports without the teacher having to leave. What about ICEAT? Do they still require a teacher to physically leave and who pays for the hotel and flight?"

johnslat: "I think you mean visas, not passports, don't you?"

laylow: "Yes, I mean visas. I'm sorry but I don't understand your quote John and how it relates to my question."

Umm, you really don't see how your writing "passport" when you actually meant "visa" would relate to your question? Maybe it relates since readers could completely misunderstand your post because you used the wrong word.

Shocked

Regards,
John

laylow · Joined: 12 Feb 2011 Posts: 37

Thank you teachr 11. If anyone can tell me how it is still possible to 'lose' your passport to avoid the need of a No Objection Letter after Saudi has started utilizing fingerprint scanners, I am eager to know.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

You are inviting us to take part in a criminal conspiracy ?

cmp45 · Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The Min Of Int in Riyadh has probably already identified this potential malefactor through his ISP and opened a file on him.

Mysterious · Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 170

Sirens of Cyprus · Joined: 21 Mar 2007 Posts: 255

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Knowing Scot... he was being facetious...

No they couldn't get it from here. Could you imagine all the ministries of the world and shady employers emailing Dave? Laughing

VS

teachr11 · Joined: 23 Aug 2012 Posts: 39

Grendal · Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:32 am Post subject:

Hello everyone.

I have been gone from this forum for a while, but I'm back now. Read some of the threads concerning business visas. All I can say is they are being weened off this style of entry and gradually turning towards obtaining work visas that change into iqamahs here in Saudi. The Min. of Int. has started a crackdown as you may have well heard and this was meant mostly for the illegal aliens that were here on bought visas that have been sold on the black market. The individual pays some ridiculous amount and then spends the rest of his/her time here working at jobs that are not identified on the visa to make up the money he/she has invested. This was an embarrassment for the Min. and they said that they should have been more attentive when issuing visas to companies that were just on paper only. So in a way they created the problem.

May I suggest that you get a proper work visa before entering Saudi Arabia and avoid all this headache and over the shoulder looking.

Grendal

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

I was assured by a colleague that when they take your fingerprints they also make an implant of a miniature device that allows them to track you wherever you go. My informant is still working in KSA, pursued by his psychotic and paranoid thoughts. Probably no one will notice that he is insane until he leaves KSA.