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Otterman Ollie
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Yes, no doubt many people remember her with varying degrees of admiration and disgust, however, those people who given the chance would gladly dance or p**s on her grave are not really giving themselves or the country they profess to care so deeply about a very positive image.
Too many people don't want to acknowledge the fact that the last lot who were in power didn't do any better, some even say Bambi was MORE right wing than Maggie, I remember he didn't put the miners back to work, or RETURN the unions back to power. |
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Perilla
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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Location: Hong Kong
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Otterman Ollie wrote: |
| ... some even say Bambi was MORE right wing than Maggie, I remember he didn't put the miners back to work, or RETURN the unions back to power. |
Hardly! Blair and New Labour wouldn't have been elected without taking on board some of Thatcher's changes. How could they have put the miners back to work? Once a pit is closed, that's it. As for the unions, it's not up to the government to 'put them back in power'. Society had already lost its appetite for hardline socialist unions. Blair and co would have committed political suicide if they'd tried to turn the clock back.
Not that I'm a Blair supporter. His biggest mistake (and what a humongous mistake it was) was following Dubbya into Iraq, but that's another story ... |
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HLJHLJ
Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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Location: Ecuador
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Otterman Ollie wrote: |
Too many people don't want to acknowledge the fact that the last lot who were in power didn't do any better, some even say Bambi was MORE right wing than Maggie, I remember he didn't put the miners back to work, or RETURN the unions back to power. |
I'm more than happy to acknowledge it. She removed any possibility of a true opposition party along with the industries. Industries were razed to the point that it would never be practical or financially possible to rebuild them. Along with them the unions that provided an alternative route into politics. By destroying that route she won the battle and the war, and I don't see how it could possibly be reversed now.
Didn't she say something along those lines herself, that her finest achievement was New Labour? It was a politically brilliant manoeuvre, appalling, but brilliant.
Regardless of who is in power, democracy only works if there is an opposition party. How can it be considered a democracy when neither side actually opposes the other? What's the point in voting, they might as well just toss a coin for it, or do the honest thing and merge to create the single-party state it really is. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003
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This is Glenda Jackson, once a well-known film and television actress, now a Member of Parliament. Her speech is extremely critical of Thatcherism and is conducted against considerable verbal opposition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8 |
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