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Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:59 am Post subject:

Dear Fluffy

What is that translated phrase in English? I don't understand Welsh.

Regards

Sheepish Sasha

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Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:14 pm Post subject:

I am reliably informed that the standard term is 'Hiberno-English'.

HLJHLJ · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador

That's the proper/technical term.

So... what about Scots? Language or dialect?

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:54 pm Post subject:

Good question. But what language are we referring to when we say 'Scots'?

HLJHLJ · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador

That's impossible to answer without first defining it as dialect or a language.

We could start by agreeing it's not Scottish Gaelic.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject:

I wasn't sure if you were referring to the dialect of Irish or English that is spoken in Scotland. Very Happy

(There is my answer to your original question...)

HLJHLJ · Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 1218 Location: Ecuador

Personally, I wouldn't call Broad Scots a dialect of either Scottish Gaelic or Scottish English. I think it's a language in its own right, and that Ulster Scots is a dialect of Broad Scots, rather than being a dialect of Hiberno English or Scottish English.

But I'm open to persuasion on the subject.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject:

Cans of worms seem to be this thread's new theme : )

My own take on this is that it is a dialect, albeit of Old English, and one which has taken a divergent path from what is now Modern English. To call it a separate language would be akin to calling the West Frisian dialect of Dutch a separate language from Dutch. Unlike the West Frisian language, which apparently is.

'Tis all double lallands to me : )

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