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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
Posts: 3325
Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MESL wrote:
You don't get it, do you?


no, silly, tis YOU who are not the getting of it.

Da Chou don't need the release letter.
Da Chou don't need the tiny paycheck.
Da Chou don't need this particular job.
Da Chou don' need no stinkin' badges!
Da Chou, he be free like the wind, can go other places.

when Da Man make Da Chou an offer, if Da Chou no likey, Da Chou no takey.
if Da Chou learns later dat Da Man be makin' many moolah, Da Chou no feel
sad. Da Chou, he say, hmmm, maybe next time Da Chou he axe for mo'.
so longs Da Man pay Da Chou what been promised, Da Chou no min'.
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LarssonCrew



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 1308

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?

You don't want more?
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doogsville



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
Posts: 924
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?

You don't want more?


Wanting more and getting more are not the same thing. Also, complaining you don't get a big enough cut of the profits is not the same as getting yourself a cut of the profits. So far all I've read in this thread is people whining about the former and having nothing constructive to say about achieving the latter. People are also inferring that this is common practice only in China, and ignoring the fact that it is endemic throughout the world.

Does anyone have any sensible, concrete proposal as to how you get the boss to give you more than 200 and hour when he's making upwards of 1500 a class? Does anyone have any concrete evidence that this is only happening in China, and that in western developed countries everyone is being given a fair and proportionate cut of the profits?
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rogerwilco



Joined: 10 Jun 2010
Posts: 1549

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doogsville wrote:


Does anyone have any sensible, concrete proposal as to how you get the boss to give you more than 200 and hour when he's making upwards of 1500 a class?



What China needs is a return to Communism !
We will all be equal !
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doogsville



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
Posts: 924
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rogerwilco wrote:


What China needs is a return to Communism !
We will all be equal !


Well they'll all be equal, us foreigners don't count! Sad
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?

You don't want more?


well.......i'm not UN-happy. more money is gooder, of course.

but to GET more, i'd have to DO more. i'd have to have a chat wit Da Man.
show him i'm worthy of the the big renminbucks. like, hey boss man, i
can show you how to increase your attendance by xx%, and lower your
expenses by xx%.....or something like that.....and i want a cut. in fact,
i'm so sure of myself that i'll take a 50% cut in pay....cause i know i'll
more than triple my original salary with that slice o'pie.

if i expect bigger renminbucks for doing same-same, boss man can fire
my butt and replace me with laowai number three.

if i can't...or won't....prove my renminbuckworthyness, then i'm just some
old fart pissin' & moanin' on the interwebs that the boss man makes more.
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LarssonCrew



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 1308

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could be making more of a profit, IF we were Chinese.

And I've explained, my friend runs a soccer training club in the UK, he gives a cut up to 30% to his employees, especially if the children resign.

I've never seen a Chinese boss give 30% of profits away, if the class makes them 100 you'll never see them give the foreigner 300.
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MESL



Joined: 23 Aug 2003
Posts: 291

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"So what, if anything, are you going to do to change it? Or do you think just bitching about it on the Internet is enough?"


They had me riding a bicycle 4 times a day, 7 hours a week in the cold weather. They had me climbing 7 flights of stairs. On the 7th floor, exposed to the wind, with an entire wall of my bedroom was as a window, my electric bill was staggering. Meanwhile, the English teachers group leader was badmouthing me to the principal.

I moved out of the apartment and refused to teach.

I'm on the second floor of a hotel, I don't pay any electricity, they're driving me to the school, my salary has almost doubled, and the wicked witch of the west hasn't set foot in my classroom again.

Is that a good start? Your turn.
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muffintop



Joined: 07 Jan 2013
Posts: 803

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
We could be making more of a profit, IF we were Chinese.

And I've explained, my friend runs a soccer training club in the UK, he gives a cut up to 30% to his employees, especially if the children resign.

I've never seen a Chinese boss give 30% of profits away, if the class makes them 100 you'll never see them give the foreigner 300.


I do not understand anything in this post.

If you were Chinese...what?

I am not clear on how what one guy does with his business in the UK is somehow related to ...anything really.

Is 300 30% of 100?

Am I missing something?
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muffintop



Joined: 07 Jan 2013
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