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choudoufu
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| MESL wrote: |
| You don't get it, do you? |
no, silly, tis YOU who are not the getting of it.
Da Chou don't need the release letter.
Da Chou don't need the tiny paycheck.
Da Chou don't need this particular job.
Da Chou don' need no stinkin' badges!
Da Chou, he be free like the wind, can go other places.
when Da Man make Da Chou an offer, if Da Chou no likey, Da Chou no takey.
if Da Chou learns later dat Da Man be makin' many moolah, Da Chou no feel
sad. Da Chou, he say, hmmm, maybe next time Da Chou he axe for mo'.
so longs Da Man pay Da Chou what been promised, Da Chou no min'. |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?
You don't want more? |
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doogsville
Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?
You don't want more? |
Wanting more and getting more are not the same thing. Also, complaining you don't get a big enough cut of the profits is not the same as getting yourself a cut of the profits. So far all I've read in this thread is people whining about the former and having nothing constructive to say about achieving the latter. People are also inferring that this is common practice only in China, and ignoring the fact that it is endemic throughout the world.
Does anyone have any sensible, concrete proposal as to how you get the boss to give you more than 200 and hour when he's making upwards of 1500 a class? Does anyone have any concrete evidence that this is only happening in China, and that in western developed countries everyone is being given a fair and proportionate cut of the profits? |
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rogerwilco
Joined: 10 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| doogsville wrote: |
Does anyone have any sensible, concrete proposal as to how you get the boss to give you more than 200 and hour when he's making upwards of 1500 a class? |
What China needs is a return to Communism !
We will all be equal ! |
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doogsville
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| rogerwilco wrote: |
What China needs is a return to Communism !
We will all be equal ! |
Well they'll all be equal, us foreigners don't count!  |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
so choudoufu, you're happy to earn 200 an hour when the boss is making upwards of say 1500 a class?
You don't want more? |
well.......i'm not UN-happy. more money is gooder, of course.
but to GET more, i'd have to DO more. i'd have to have a chat wit Da Man.
show him i'm worthy of the the big renminbucks. like, hey boss man, i
can show you how to increase your attendance by xx%, and lower your
expenses by xx%.....or something like that.....and i want a cut. in fact,
i'm so sure of myself that i'll take a 50% cut in pay....cause i know i'll
more than triple my original salary with that slice o'pie.
if i expect bigger renminbucks for doing same-same, boss man can fire
my butt and replace me with laowai number three.
if i can't...or won't....prove my renminbuckworthyness, then i'm just some
old fart pissin' & moanin' on the interwebs that the boss man makes more. |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:50 am Post subject: |
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We could be making more of a profit, IF we were Chinese.
And I've explained, my friend runs a soccer training club in the UK, he gives a cut up to 30% to his employees, especially if the children resign.
I've never seen a Chinese boss give 30% of profits away, if the class makes them 100 you'll never see them give the foreigner 300. |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| "So what, if anything, are you going to do to change it? Or do you think just bitching about it on the Internet is enough?" |
They had me riding a bicycle 4 times a day, 7 hours a week in the cold weather. They had me climbing 7 flights of stairs. On the 7th floor, exposed to the wind, with an entire wall of my bedroom was as a window, my electric bill was staggering. Meanwhile, the English teachers group leader was badmouthing me to the principal.
I moved out of the apartment and refused to teach.
I'm on the second floor of a hotel, I don't pay any electricity, they're driving me to the school, my salary has almost doubled, and the wicked witch of the west hasn't set foot in my classroom again.
Is that a good start? Your turn. |
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
We could be making more of a profit, IF we were Chinese.
And I've explained, my friend runs a soccer training club in the UK, he gives a cut up to 30% to his employees, especially if the children resign.
I've never seen a Chinese boss give 30% of profits away, if the class makes them 100 you'll never see them give the foreigner 300. |
I do not understand anything in this post.
If you were Chinese...what?
I am not clear on how what one guy does with his business in the UK is somehow related to ...anything really.
Is 300 30% of 100?
Am I missing something? |
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muffintop
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| MESL wrote: |
| my salary has almost doubled |
Your salary almost doubled and you are still butthurt about what the principal supposedly earns?
You sir, are a special kind of person.
This thread makes my head hurt. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
| And I've explained, my friend runs a soccer training club in the UK, he gives a cut up to 30% to his employees, especially if the children resign. |
have you considered coaching soccer in the uk? 
i know a guy who has a friend who runs a soccer training camp.
i could put in a good word for you..... |
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MESL
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Your salary almost doubled and you are still butthurt about what the principal supposedly earns? |
I should have known someone would find a way to put a negative spin on a positive development. I'm still doing most of the work. Me and the education director of my employment agency and my teaching assistant. And we're still getting a tiny fraction of the wealth we produce. And the principal is still exploiting us and the parents. And he's still embezzling school funds. |
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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MESL,
Why not return to Pei Zheng ? |
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MESL
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| When you play spin doctor for a criminal, everybody loses - except the criminal. And yes, there are safe strategies for all of us to get a much bigger piece of the pie. That having been said, I've searched so many job ads, downloaded so many documents, and wrote so many cover letters, I've got carpel tunnel. So I'm going to leave it here. |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| MESL wrote: |
| I'm still doing most of the work. |
ok. but you still haven't answered the 64-thousand-rmb question: is the
employer in breach of contract? are you required to work significantly
more hours than specified in the contract? are you being paid less than
the agreed upon amount? (climbing stairs is not an im-breach-able offense)
doubled your pay? moved you to a hotel? given you a driver?
sounds like you have one awesome boss! so thoughtful! bending over
backwards to keep you happy. if only everyone had a boss as wondrous
as yours! |
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