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Lloyduss
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 Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:28 am Post subject: Waiting Time For Applications? |
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So, I sent off my university applications last night  (Mostly universities in Guangdong). My question is how long have you guys waited for them to get back to you regarding a position? Weeks, or months? I've applied for the Aug/Sept start. I received one automated email stating they received my application.
Thanks everyone as your very helpful on this forum especially for a noob grad like me  |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Waiting Time For Applications? |
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| Lloyduss wrote: |
So, I sent off my university applications last night (Mostly universities in Guangdong). My question is how long have you guys waited for them to get back to you regarding a position? Weeks, or months? I've applied for the Aug/Sept start. I received one automated email stating they received my application.
Thanks everyone as your very helpful on this forum especially for a noob grad like me |
May 1 is a national holiday (International Labor Day) so don't expect anything for a couple of days anyway. My university wants to know from current teachers who's in and who's out by the beginning of next week. Some may have already asked their current teachers and have an idea about how many vacancies. The area that hires you (FAO or whatever that school calls the department) may also be waiting for funding/budget information to determine how many foreign teachers are needed for which academic departments.
I'd guess you may get some responses within a week to 10 days and others maybe later. A lot of schools won't respond at all. No harm in resubmitting for a school that looks particularly attractive. Good luck. |
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Non Sequitur
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10 days minimum.
Fill in your time by putting out more applications.
I mean it.
This is a brutal business and you can't afford not to catch the hiring wave getting underway now.
In any marketing you can only extend the selling season at one end - the beginning.
That's why Christmas cards aren't on sale on Boxing Day, but probably on the shelves at the start of November.
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johntpartee
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| You might hear from them today; could be years. Literally. |
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lemak
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| johntpartee wrote: |
| You might hear from them today; could be years. Literally. |
I recently got an offer from a college I applied to at the end of 2010. "Are you still interested in a position at our school?"
The salary is still the same. |
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Lloyduss
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, it sounds a lot more competitive than I originally thought. I'll keep applying then and hopefully I will hear from a few in the next couple of weeks, thanks guys! |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Not competitive, incompetent. |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Not competitive, incompetent. |
Agree. Some of it is that, like many institutions, Chinese universities have budgets that can vary year to year. The hiring department must sometimes wait to find out how many foreigners it will be able to hire.
But the other, more likely scenario is that the department doesn't know how to proceed when sponsoring a foreign expert. It's not overly complicated though, and the good ones learn fast. But as soon as an FAO gets good at handling the bureaucracy, they get promoted or laterally move to another department and you start all over again with a newbie administrator. The new ones don't want to communicate with the foreigner until they know how to communicate with the foreigner and/or what they are supposed to do in their new duties. |
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kungfuman
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Follow up by you is a must. Send an email 2-3 days later inquiring about your status - if you really want the job. |
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Lloyduss
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| kungfuman wrote: |
| Follow up by you is a must. Send an email 2-3 days later inquiring about your status - if you really want the job. |
Thanks for that bit of advice; I will tonight act upon it by sending an email inquiring on the current status of my applications. |
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kungfuman
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^ Keep in mind that they may have a pile of applications and may not be in any hurry as Chinese often wait till the last minute to do things.
By being slightly aggressive you start a rapport and put your image and name in their head ahead of those who have not contacted them. |
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Lloyduss
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If anyone has anymore useful suggestions/advice regarding university applications it would be gladly appreciated
*UPDATE* I've heard back from two universities in the Fujian Province |
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GreatApe
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I teach for an I.S., but our school schedule closely mirrors that of many colleges and universities in this area.
The school were I work will not start hiring new teachers until our administrators are 100% sure of the teachers on our current staff that they want to bring back, how many new teachers they plan on hiring, and the numbers on the contracts that they are planning to offer.
Accordingly, it looks like the last week of May and the first week of June will be new contract time for our school. It will be two weeks of a rush to re-new, interview and hire new teachers. Then it will be over and, a month later or so later, summer vacation can begin.
I can't wait for summer vacation!
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DosEquisX
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Keeping consistent contact with the schools you are interested in is important. They often have stacks of applications and being the aggressor will give you the edge over others who just mass e-mail their resumes.
It's easy to get frustrated by rejections. I've had several schools offer me a contract only to get the offers pulled back at the last minute with a bullshit reason given to save face. In one case, I even signed the contract offer and gave the FAO all of the necessary copies and paperwork to secure the job before leaving the country. Never consider a deal done until you have the visa in hand. If you don't have the visa, then you don't have the job. |
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Non Sequitur
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| roadwalker wrote: |
| johntpartee wrote: |
| Not competitive, incompetent. |
Agree. Some of it is that, like many institutions, Chinese universities have budgets that can vary year to year. The hiring department must sometimes wait to find out how many foreigners it will be able to hire.
But the other, more likely scenario is that the department doesn't know how to proceed when sponsoring a foreign expert. It's not overly complicated though, and the good ones learn fast. But as soon as an FAO gets good at handling the bureaucracy, they get promoted or laterally move to another department and you start all over again with a newbie administrator. The new ones don't want to communicate with the foreigner until they know how to communicate with the foreigner and/or what they are supposed to do in their new duties. |
This is soooo.. true.
When the FAO at my last school decided to ditch its recruiter I was asked to let them have copies of the emails I had exchanged with said recruiter. |
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