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Coolguy123
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 132
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: Working in Poland as an American |
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Is working in Poland as an American possible or is it impossible with the visa restrictions? Doing some research, seems like Polish schools can hire EU citizens with no paperwork, and that you have to go to Poland to be able to get a job to interview in person. Is this true or are there possibilities?
I have CELTA and B.A. in English Lit. Loved Poland when I visited and they seem to like Americans and the people were great, very welcoming. Would the the situation change if you're actually working/living there? ;p I've found that people's attitudes change sometimes once you're not a tourist and working/living in a place.[/list] |
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wojbrian
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 178
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:16 am Post subject: |
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There are 3 ways to do it.
1. Find a job before you go.
Send out as many cv/resume as you can.
The main disadvantage of this is not knowing the people or situation before you go.
2. Fly to Poland now and pound the pavement.
The main disadvantage of this is cost.
3. Fly to Poland and start your own business.
I have always done #1. It has worked out once and didn't work out the other time.
I think that #3 is the best option because it gives you a level of freedom in case you get stuck in a bad situation. |
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Coolguy123
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 132
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Is there a "standard" wage or renumeration? $1000 w/ accommodation? Flights?
Any potential to save here, any idea how it compares to other areas? |
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misteradventure
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 246
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Depending where you go, getting an offer of $1K may be nice. Things may have changed as I have been away for several months.
The last time I inquired, Americans (not EU nationals) needed $150K in capital investments (cash in bank) to start a business in Poland. Perhaps this has changed.
Poles are well aware that the Internet is a dangerous place. If they can see you and can tell you are not reeking of (cheap) vodka, you have a better chance of getting a job. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Forget about getting flights paid. Some schools help you find accommodation, but of course you're the one who's paying for it in the end.
1000 USD is a barely livable wage in some Polish cities, but not in Warsaw. As a qualified native speaker, you should aim to earn 60zl/60min after taxes in Warsaw, and 50-55zl/60min after taxes in other cities. So teaching a standard load of 25 hours a week, you will, hopefully, earn 5000-6000zl in a month with no holidays.
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The last time I inquired, Americans (not EU nationals) needed $150K in capital investments (cash in bank) to start a business in Poland. Perhaps this has changed. |
Totally not the case anymore. You need no cash reserves to start a sole trader and you can be up and rolling in a couple days. |
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Polishjerseygirl70
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:16 am Post subject: |
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As a bare minimum, you need a teaching certificate (e.g. CELTA). Long gone are the days when you could waltz into a school and they would hire you on the spot simply because you were a native speaker.
A uni degree is less important now. But without some kind of EFL qualification you will really struggle to find work in Poland. |
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Polishjerseygirl70
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PeterParvo
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 103
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Shake,
Can you even get EFL qualifications without a university degree? |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of non-graduates out there clutching pieces of paper that say "TEFL". I think even for the CELTA you do not need a degree. Personally I would not even look at someone who had not served her/his time reading useless tomes on Sociology or Ethnolinguistics to get a useless BA. |
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sparks
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of non-graduates out there clutching pieces of paper that say "TEFL". I think even for the CELTA you do not need a degree. Personally I would not even look at someone who had not served her/his time reading useless tomes on Sociology or Ethnolinguistics to get a useless BA. |
Yes, that's because there is a direct correlation between the uselessness of the degree and effectiveness at teaching EFL. "You studied the history of Prussian military tactics?...Have you ever thought about becoming a DOS?" |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 is right. No university degree is required to get a CELTA. The CELTA trainers will check that you are fluent enough, and have sufficient awareness of correct grammar, spelling, etc. before they accept you to the course. There is also a pre-course written task, I believe.
This is one reason it pays to do a CELTA rather than some random McTEFL certificate, ESPECIALLY if you do not have a degree. Having a CELTA indicates that Cambridge thinks you'll do ok in the classroom. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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sparks wrote: |
Yes, that's because there is a direct correlation between the uselessness of the degree and effectiveness at teaching EFL. "You studied the history of Prussian military tactics?...Have you ever thought about becoming a DOS?" |
I know I've posted this on Dave's before, but this is a hilarious site about everything TEFL. Often eerily true too. https://sites.google.com/site/englishdroid2/ |
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scot47

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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:33 am Post subject: |
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McTEFL is okay for a McJob. Also useful if you are a fugitive from justice eager to gain admittance to somewhere from which you will not be deported. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Master Shake wrote: |
sparks wrote: |
Yes, that's because there is a direct correlation between the uselessness of the degree and effectiveness at teaching EFL. "You studied the history of Prussian military tactics?...Have you ever thought about becoming a DOS?" |
I know I've posted this on Dave's before, but this is a hilarious site about everything TEFL. Often eerily true too. https://sites.google.com/site/englishdroid2/ |
Love the site! |
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