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What is the cheapest place in Asia to lay low, and hang out

 
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:37 pm    Post subject: What is the cheapest place in Asia to lay low, and hang out Reply with quote

Im going to be out there, and need a home base until I get a job. I will be travelling through China for a month in August. In September, Ill be looking for an ESL job, probably China.

Instead of coming back to the USA, where I really don't have anywhere good to stay, I figured I'd rent a weekly place somewhere, hang out, until I found a job online somewhere.

I will have some money. Im just looking for a safe place first, then cheap place.

Thanks for any ideas.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the China (off-topic) forum, try lonelyplanet.com.
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Harbin



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traveling through China? You're coming on a tourist visa, which makes it illegal for you to look for work. Yea, many people work illegally and these are the very same people who complain about crooked employers.

Feel free to come to China as a tourist and drop by a few schools to have a look, but don't expect to come here on a tourist visa and work here indefinitely. I highly suggest you follow the appropriate legal methods for working in China - secure the job from abroad, get the necessary documents from your school, obtain a valid work visa (z-visa) in your home country, and then enter China to work. The local police department and their daily fines of 1,500 RMB for not having a valid visa also highly suggest you follow the appropriate procedures Very Happy
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harbin wrote:
Traveling through China? You're coming on a tourist visa, which makes it illegal for you to look for work. Yea, many people work illegally and these are the very same people who complain about crooked employers.

Feel free to come to China as a tourist and drop by a few schools to have a look, but don't expect to come here on a tourist visa and work here indefinitely. I highly suggest you follow the appropriate legal methods for working in China - secure the job from abroad, get the necessary documents from your school, obtain a valid work visa (z-visa) in your home country, and then enter China to work. The local police department and their daily fines of 1,500 RMB for not having a valid visa also highly suggest you follow the appropriate procedures Very Happy


No plans on doing anything illegally. I have a degree, clean record, etc. I won't work anywhere without a proper visa. Its not illegal to look for a job on a tourist visa is it?
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: What is the cheapest place in Asia to lay low, and hang Reply with quote

nellychess wrote:
Instead of coming back to the USA, where I really don't have anywhere good to stay, I figured I'd rent a weekly place somewhere, hang out, until I found a job online somewhere.

I will have some money. Im just looking for a safe place first, then cheap place.

Thanks for any ideas.


Were I in your shoes I'd do....

Laos, Northern Thailand, Lake Toba or Bukittinggi in Sumatra, Cameron Highlands in Malaysia, Nepal.

Possibly somewhere on the coast in Cambodia - although granted some may still find that a little Wild West-ish

Whether you can actually obtain a work visa for China in any of those places is anyone's guess.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sent you a PM
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nellychess wrote:
Harbin wrote:
Traveling through China? You're coming on a tourist visa, which makes it illegal for you to look for work. Yea, many people work illegally and these are the very same people who complain about crooked employers.

Feel free to come to China as a tourist and drop by a few schools to have a look, but don't expect to come here on a tourist visa and work here indefinitely. I highly suggest you follow the appropriate legal methods for working in China - secure the job from abroad, get the necessary documents from your school, obtain a valid work visa (z-visa) in your home country, and then enter China to work. The local police department and their daily fines of 1,500 RMB for not having a valid visa also highly suggest you follow the appropriate procedures Very Happy


No plans on doing anything illegally. I have a degree, clean record, etc. I won't work anywhere without a proper visa. Its not illegal to look for a job on a tourist visa is it?


Not illegal but a questionable decision. You have to return to your home country to get a legal visa. So it would be a costly visit just to look for a job.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nellychess:

Your plan seems to need reworking. I suggest you go over your past posts, especially those related to working in China/Asia. You'll notice others have offered this same advice---it's not new. Don't fall into the newbie post-n-run routine; you'll miss out on key info and guidance from those in the know.
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Nellychess:

Your plan seems to need reworking. I suggest you go over your past posts, especially those related to working in China/Asia. You'll notice others have offered this same advice---it's not new. Don't fall into the newbie post-n-run routine; you'll miss out on key info and guidance from those in the know.



I thought that if I was travelling in Asia, and got a job, that I could go to Hong Kong to get what I need for China. Is that not the case?

I'm going to be out there in China for sure. Staying with a friend in Beijing for a month, then I'm on my own. If I can start working right after, I will, but I figured if not, I could go somewhere cheap, use a recruiter online etc, and then once I get a job, head to HK to get my visa sorted out. I will be in China on a multi entry visa. I wont work without the proper visa. Is my plan flawed?
Thanks
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For starters, you should be posting your China-specific questions on the appropriate country forum; that's where you'll get the most useful info. Case in point, you started a thread in the China job forum, Newbie in China on tourist visa. Easy to get a job? (http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=101972), whereby others gave you key advice. You never posted an acknowledgement, but then began a new similar thread on this forum.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second the idea of northern Thailand as a hangout. I loved Laos, too, but I'm not sure I would last that long there without moving on. Anywhere in Southeast Asia could be comfortable, though. Why not take some language or other classes so you don't get into a relaxed rut? China also has a couple of hangout areas including Yangshuo, where Denim-Maniac usually posts from, and Yunnan Province. There are others as well but they are limited in number.

So far as I know, most areas of China won't allow you to go anywhere but your home country's Chinese consulate to get a work visa. Some people still get them in Hong Kong but don't count on it. And some who have legal residency in a third country (not just a visa or passport stamp) have been able to do so in that country, but again, don't count on it. So figure on upwards of $2000 USD in extra holiday spending if you have to go back home for a round trip, depending on where home is.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

Roadwalker has suggested that you might want to consider doing some course during a sojourn in some corner of SE Asia.Good suggestion ! In one of your recent posts, you mentioned that you don't have a TESOL certificate .Why don't you enquire about doing a CELTA course in either Thailand or Vietnam ? Post some questions to the pertinent fora regarding such training in those two countries.It would , I believe, be considerably cheaper to do such training in one of those two countries than back in the US !

With respect to Thailand, I believe that a couple of the CELTA training organisations actually include accommodation in their packages, such as one school in Chiangmai (sp?) - a town that is v.popular among the backpackers !
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nellychess



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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info everyone. I kind of changed my plans a bit. I'm just going to hang here(US), and try to get a job through a recruiter instead of complicating things. I will use all your advice in the future about N. Thailand.

I'm going to try to hook up a Uni job somewhere.

Cheers
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