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Professional TEFLer



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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Age limit & working visa Reply with quote

Is there a cutoff (age wise) for one to get the Z visa to teach? I ask because I am 44. I have received an offer in China and they do not seem to care about my age at all compared to some other Asian countries I have spoken with.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am 44


You're okay. I'm 60, there were two teachers here last year who were 64 and 66. I knew a teacher in Zhengzhou who was in his mid-70s, I've heard of teachers over 80.
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doogsville



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll find that different schools have different rules too though. My own uni won't entertain applicants over 60. I have a vague memory of reading that 60 is the official cut off point for visa applications, but I can't track it down. I also remember reading that some teachers have their resident permit renewed at 60 and above. The official retirement age in China is 55 for women and 60 for men, so it may be linked to that.

My previous employers won't employ anyone over 50, despite having at least two teachers already working there who are older than that. Again, they both started with the company before 50 and have stayed on. I've also seen an ad recently that says no one over 45.

This is China though, so the rules are often made of rubber. 44 is fine, and if you're fit and healthy then even better, more energy for jumping around and 'edutaining'. Especially if you start off in a language mill.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're getting near 60, you will be more likely to have your visa renewed by your existing employer, than if you moved somewhere else.
Moral: Older FTs should be settled in a gig that they can happily continue in, if long term China ESL is their expectation.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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more energy for jumping around and 'edutaining'


That's "enter"taining; "edu" won't enter in it at all.
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Mr. Leafy



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
If you're getting near 60, you will be more likely to have your visa renewed by your existing employer, than if you moved somewhere else.
Moral: Older FTs should be settled in a gig that they can happily continue in, if long term China ESL is their expectation.


Yes, my school will renew people over 60 but is reluctant take on new hires.

Less popular parts of the country are more flexible. One co-worker moved here when his big popular city wouldn't renew him (and we are glad to have him.)
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everybody! Good to know.
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Markness



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Harbin and there was an older gentleman who worked there, he had to at least have been in his 50s. He was a really cool guy. You can do it!
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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older gentleman who worked there, he had to at least have been in his 50s


Ancient! My god, how did he manage to escape from his assisted living center!
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Markness



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johntpartee wrote:
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older gentleman who worked there, he had to at least have been in his 50s


Ancient! My god, how did he manage to escape from his assisted living center!


Hahaha, i'm sorry. I don't know how else to politely word it. The more seasonedly aged folk who I have met in China were some of the best. Heck, they even came out more often for a beer than some of the "young" expats. Smile
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