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jmanders



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Physical Examination question? Reply with quote

Hello all, I have been interested in teaching ESL for a number of years in China (or anywhere in Asia) and have actually met many people around the world during my travels who are in the field. Getting to the point, I just have one question for those of you who have had to get 'physical examinations' when arriving for the job in China. Is there anything that necessarily disqualifies a person for teaching? I am perfectly healthy, although I have some considerably large tattoos on my torso; none of which are visible unless I actually have my shirt off, or if I'm wearing a shirt that is a tank-top or that sort of thing (something I wouldn't wear in a professional setting in the first place.). I'm just wondering since in my own experience I have always covered up my tattoos when traveling in Asia, and I lived in Hangzhou/Shanghai for some time back in 2004. Any thoughts? Also sorry if this has been asked before, I searched through previous threads and couldn't find out much about this situation. -Joseph
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have to take off your top for chest x-ray and abdominal ultrasound.
It is such regimented process (or at least my last one was), with maybe 50 FTs in the clinic at the same time, that I don't think the examiners will be too worried.
You cannot be the first one in this situation by far and if it had been an issue I expect it would have surfaced on Dave's.
Also the school has so much invested in you and most likely you've started classes, that they don't want to disrupt things.
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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be fine. I have a largish tattoo on my back (4 hours of outline) and it didnt disqualify me from working here.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question is about tattoos, not physical exams. Maybe that's why you couldn't find it. Tattoo questions pop up every few months it seems. Consensus is that there are jobs to be had for teachers with tattoos. Discretion is probably more necessary in some areas than others. At least one FT at my uni has visible tats.
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Toast



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry your boss won't be standing in the room watching while you get your gut ultrasounded and chest x-rayed....will likely just be you and the doc or nurse....unless you're in a third tier city, in which case it may be you, the doc, the nurse, their families, pooing babies, chickens....but the boss will still likely be sitting outside chatting to her high school classmates about their favorite color on qq or wechat.

For what it's worth I was still wearing a t-shirt, sweater and coat when they did my chest x-ray. No one seemed too concerned.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there anything that necessarily disqualifies a person for teaching?


If you can walk into the examination room unassisted and you don't have any STDs you're in.
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Toast



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might depend on the tatt too, I guess. If it's an Aryan Brotherhood style swastika, or the Dalai Lama moonwalking on the Great Wall or something you may have to think of some kind of story..
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jmanders



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thank you for all the responses. No, no its nothing vulgar or anything that is on my body. I have a big (around 12 hour) piece on my chest of the Kaminarimon lantern done in Irezumi type style. I also have some traditional style tattoos, but all are artistic in nature. Come to think of it, even when walking around the U.S. or Canada I rarely wear clothing that would even give off the idea that I am tattooed. One of the only times I ever had a problem was walking on the beach in Kamakura.

Again though, I don't even give off the notion of being tattooed since I refuse to get anything done on visible parts of my body. I could imagine that it would be in some areas of Asia. Other than that I wouldn't have any issues passing a normal physical check.


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jmanders



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toast wrote:
Might depend on the tatt too, I guess. If it's an Aryan Brotherhood style swastika, or the Dalai Lama moonwalking on the Great Wall or something you may have to think of some kind of story..


Haha, I could only guess the questions one might get for the tattoo of the Dalai Lama in China.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadwalker wrote:
The question is about tattoos, not physical exams. Maybe that's why you couldn't find it. Tattoo questions pop up every few months it seems. Consensus is that there are jobs to be had for teachers with tattoos. Discretion is probably more necessary in some areas than others. At least one FT at my uni has visible tats.


The question was about non-visible tattoos and my comment was to highlight that you will be on a school-sponsored process when you have your medical.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
roadwalker wrote:
The question is about tattoos, not physical exams. Maybe that's why you couldn't find it. Tattoo questions pop up every few months it seems. Consensus is that there are jobs to be had for teachers with tattoos. Discretion is probably more necessary in some areas than others. At least one FT at my uni has visible tats.


The question was about non-visible tattoos and my comment was to highlight that you will be on a school-sponsored process when you have your medical.


Yes, I should have framed my comment better. I meant that there were regular threads about tattoos and that the OP would have more luck searching under tattoos, since the tattoos were the source of his uncertainty. As he was worried about them being discovered in the medical exam, I agree with your comment above.
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DosEquisX



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toast wrote:
Might depend on the tatt too, I guess. If it's an Aryan Brotherhood style swastika, or the Dalai Lama moonwalking on the Great Wall or something you may have to think of some kind of story..


Did a spit take when I read that. Thanks for making my day.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..or the students commanding the tanks to go back on Tiananmen Sq.
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U99A



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a vision test? I'm friggin blind.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

U99A wrote:
Is there a vision test? I'm friggin blind.


I didn't get one this time, but usually they check your vision on a standard eye chart ("Which way are the lines pointing?" that kind of thing) and a book of pictures made of small circles designed to test if you can distinguish color. I had eyeglasses on so the nurse said no need for testing since I already had correction! Severely near (short) sighted or far sighted shouldn't be a problem if it's corrected. If you are actually functionally blind enough to affect your teaching, you may worry the school. Or may not. The medical check is mainly designed to see if you have VD or are liable to drop dead in the near future, or to need hospitalization for major problems.
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