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QTS, CELTA... and then what?
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowsoul wrote:
Yes, I think we are missing the point here. I am not asking whether I should take CELTA or not. What I am asking is what countries will be more likely to employ a person with a background like mine as an ESL teacher. (By the way, I do have a Teaching Degree related to English teaching in Primary Education, but I do not have experience teaching ESL - Please read my first post)


Point in ALL OF THIS is (since your original question WAS, " My question is, if I complete the CELTA successfully, what countries would be more likely to hire someone with a profile like mine, i.e. non-native English speaker (although I have a very soft Spanish accent, since I started learning English at a very young age), with a Spanish passport. ")

- that you can legally teach Spanish (as a Spanish native speaker with QTS) in mainstream schools just about anywhere (if you can find a job opening for a Spanish teacher).

- you can teach EFL (English) in a FEW countries (outside of Europe) and the limitation is your passport due to IMMIGRATION / VISA requirements and NOT your qualifications (CELTA or lack thereof).
*note that in SOME countries like China and Indonesia it is a degree issue since your degree is NOT an English major.

- In those countries (outside of Europe where special privileges apply) where you can get a proper visa as a teacher (to teach English / EFL) there often are additional requirements (such as an IELTS/TOEFL/TOEIC) as part of the VISA APPLICATION process that have NOTHING TO DO with employer requirements.

Illegal work (work with the wrong paperwork/visa/permits) is possible throughout: SE Asia, Central and South America, Mexico and Central Africa. Demand outstrips supply for teachers but those jobs come with their own sets of risks.

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nomad soul



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Location: The real world

PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowsoul wrote:
What I am asking is what countries will be more likely to employ a person with a background like mine as an ESL teacher. (By the way, I do have a Teaching Degree related to English teaching in Primary Education, but I do not have experience teaching ESL - Please read my first post)

If you're referring to your degree with a "Specialization in Foreign Language Teaching," you didn't indicate it's in primary ed/English. Frankly, all I see are your Spanish teaching academic credentials and experience. That's how potential employers are likely to see your background as well.

Anyway, it's difficult to say where you can teach---the majority of us on the ESL Cafe are passport holders from Anglophone countries and therefore, don't have first-hand knowledge about situations such as yours. When you're ready to transition into TEFL, I suggest you proactively start looking at the countries you're interested in, taking into consideration the suggestions from Tttompatz and others in this thread. Then check out the jobs on this site and on other TEFL sites (do an Internet search on TEFL jobs) for those particular countries and see what you're qualified for in terms of the job and visa regulations. Obviously, if a job ad indicates specific nationalities other than your own, skip it. Otherwise, submit your cover letter and CV and see what happens.

Be aware you're likely to find yourself limited as to where you can teach English, which means you can't be choosy. For instance, if Russia is a possibility but isn't on your desirable list, then you'll need to decide what you're willing to compromise. Additionally, some jobs are only obtained by the applicant being in country (AKA knocking on doors) versus applying via email from hundreds or thousands of miles away.

This probably isn't what you want to hear, but that's the reality.
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vallecano



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Location: República Popular de Vallekas

PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Yellow Soul,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume your degree is Magisterio Bilingüe?

If you think you'd like to work with teenagers and with QTS, have you considered looking into teaching secondary at international schools? You can offer a Spanish/English combination that makes you more marketable. If you need some more experience at secondary level, you could try to find some supply work in London (which I'm sure would be great fun) to build that up.

For this I don't think a CELTA would be necessary but if the cost factor is taken out I don't think it would hurt.

If you want to go a castellano speaking country but you think Mexico may be too dangerous, have you considered the cono sur? I don't know about the visa situation but I'd imagine that a Spanish passport is more useful than a UK one for Argentina at the moment. Although as has been said a Spanish/English combination may be a tough sell there.

Hope this helps.
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