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RabbitWho
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: Naff wages in Asturias? |
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I have 6 years teaching experience and preparing students for exams.
I speak Spanish fluently and I am a native English speaker.
I have experience teaching all levels and ages and my cat thinks I'm marvellous, yet in Gij�n I am consistently offered 12 euros an hour rather than the 15 I see in other parts of Spain.
I am really set on living there and very happy to accept the wage if someone promises me that this is normal for this part of Spain and that I will be able to live my normal frugal existence and save up money for my bright future filled with many solid gold waving cats. |
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robbie_davies
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| Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Naff wages in Asturias? |
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| RabbitWho wrote: |
I have 6 years teaching experience and preparing students for exams.
I speak Spanish fluently and I am a native English speaker.
I have experience teaching all levels and ages and my cat thinks I'm marvellous, yet in Gij�n I am consistently offered 12 euros an hour rather than the 15 I see in other parts of Spain.
I am really set on living there and very happy to accept the wage if someone promises me that this is normal for this part of Spain and that I will be able to live my normal frugal existence and save up money for my bright future filled with many solid gold waving cats. |
What has you being a 'native speaker' got anything to do with it? You have just produced a diatribe about how there are plenty of non-natives who are EFL geniuses. If they are equal to you, then 12 euros an hour is a fair wage.  |
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spiral78
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| What has you being a 'native speaker' got anything to do with it? You have just produced a diatribe about how there are plenty of non-natives who are EFL geniuses. If they are equal to you, then 12 euros an hour is a fair wage |
I don't see the logic here. If we were paid only to be native speakers of English, then no quals would be needed. It's about basic wages for qualified teachers of whatever native language.... |
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robbie_davies
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| Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| What has you being a 'native speaker' got anything to do with it? You have just produced a diatribe about how there are plenty of non-natives who are EFL geniuses. If they are equal to you, then 12 euros an hour is a fair wage |
I don't see the logic here. If we were paid only to be native speakers of English, then no quals would be needed. It's about basic wages for qualified teachers of whatever native language.... |
The lack of logic regarding this comes from the OP in question who states in another thread about the superiority of NNS and then uses their status as 'native speaker' in this thread to debate the earning of more than 12 euros an hour.
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In my experience my Eastern European co-workers speak English better than most Spanish people and understand English grammar better than most English speaking natives.
And even when this isn't the case, anyone who has taught children will agree that someone with a very basic B1 level of English and a knack with kids will be able to educate the class better than someone with C2 or native English who hasn't a clue how to talk to or treat children or control a class. |
Which is fine and dandy - so what is the point of mentioning that you are a native speaker if you have typed the above?
Personally speaking, competence, qualifications, experience and a glut of other considerations are important also, do you agree? |
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spiral78
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| Personally speaking, competence, qualifications, experience and a glut of other considerations are important also, do you agree? |
Totally agree. And all of the above are just as likely to be in the possession of a non-native speaker of English, who will have my respect equally with a native speaker. |
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robbie_davies
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| Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
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| Personally speaking, competence, qualifications, experience and a glut of other considerations are important also, do you agree? |
Totally agree. And all of the above are just as likely to be in the possession of a non-native speaker of English, who will have my respect equally with a native speaker. |
It hasn't been my findings though - it is an impasse we find ourselves at.
The OP shouldn't use their 'native speaker' status to think they deserve more money when they actually think that non native speakers are superior at the job. Illogical nonsense! That is all. |
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Paper_Cat
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I am currently working in Oviedo, Asturias as an EFL teacher.
Academies will offer you 12 euros for classes they arrange with prospective students and that's a good rate for academies. One academy offered me 10 once. The cheeky ones will even try offering you 8.
The best way to find private classes that pay the rate you want is through the elcero newspaper and tusclasesparticulares.com
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RabbitWho
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Thank you so much Paper Cat! So now I know the normal wage in Asturias is lower.
Advice for anyone else who happens across the thread: In my experience the wages in Catalonia and even Andalusia are much higher, 15 euro an hour, and if you are willing to stand the heat of the north cost of Africa your wages will be even better!
Robbie:
It is a fact, whether I like it or not, that some schools like to pay native speakers more, and some schools only hire natives. This is not the norm. I have often been paid less than more qualified non native speakers and I gave it no thought until now. Your rants on this thread are completely off topic. [/quote] |
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robbie_davies
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| RabbitWho wrote: |
Thank you so much Paper Cat! So now I know the normal wage in Asturias is lower.
Advice for anyone else who happens across the thread: In my experience the wages in Catalonia and even Andalusia are much higher, 15 euro an hour, and if you are willing to stand the heat of the north cost of Africa your wages will be even better!
Robbie:
It is a fact, whether I like it or not, that some schools like to pay native speakers more, and some schools only hire natives. This is not the norm. I have often been paid less than more qualified non native speakers and I gave it no thought until now. Your rants on this thread are completely off topic. |
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And there you have it, get more qualifications and your salary and opportunities will increase - QED!  |
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Paper_Cat
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Thank you so much Paper Cat! So now I know the normal wage in Asturias is lower.
Advice for anyone else who happens across the thread: In my experience the wages in Catalonia and even Andalusia are much higher, 15 euro an hour, and if you are willing to stand the heat of the north cost of Africa your wages will be even better!
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I'm trying to find a job in another part of Spain for next academic year. I was actually thinking about Andalucia. Any recommendations and pieces of advice would be welcome. |
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