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[Voyeur]

I've done a lot of research, and I'm still confused--and so is my employer. Maybe someone can help me out.

I'm a Canadian living in Ukraine (temporarily). I'm trying to get to a job in Fuzhou, China. I do not want to go back home, and so my employer has confirmed I can get the Z Visa in Hong Kong. (Embassy in Ukraine would not process the Z Visa).

However, my province wants a scanned health certificate to issue the work permit and invitation letter. I want to get the health cert done in Ukraine. My employer says I need to call the Chinese Embassy in Ukraine to get a list of approved medical facilities, and that those approved facilities will have the 'form' and know the procedure.

Well the embassy in Ukraine is clueless. There is no approved list. And they have no idea what form or procedure I need to fill out. My employer is new to this, and so she is clueless too.

I'm sure it will be cheap here in Ukraine, so I want to just get it done at the best hospital I can, and send it to my employer who will see if it can fly. Can anyone provide me with a form and a list of procedures I need done to get the invitation letter? All I see is the form for the medical check that gets done once you are in China, later on.

Also, will I need to get a health cert in Hong Kong too? One in Ukraine, one in HK, and then one later in China?

[Denim-Maniac]

The form that you can see that is the medical check for China? Thats the one to use. X-ray, ECG, HIV test, and then all the simple stuff like height / weight etc.

[choudoufu]

haha, of course they're clueless! that's their job.

anyway. you have the form. same one in china as outside, printed
in english and chinese. PHYSICAL EXAMINATION RECORD FOR FOREIGNERS

read "Sticky: Overseas Medical Check----Z Visa"
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=4192

it's very long. i suggest you start from the last page and read back for
the more currenter info.

most importantest is the hospital/clinic has an official-looking stamp.

[Mr. Leafy]

The form is here:

http://ca.china-embassy.org/eng/lsyw/gzrz/vusa/P020111019151926928125.pdf

In most cases if you go to the website for 'Embassy of China in [country]' and then to 'Consular Services' you will find this same form somewhere. Don't call, the person answering the phone won't know.

Before I came to China the employer was telling me I had to go to an approved hospital and that they would know the form, just like you.

Now that I am helping recruit new teachers the school is asking me to tell them the same thing, which I know not to be true. Not only that, they are telling me to tell them that it has to be a certain grade of hospital.

What I think is that the local staff just don't know how things are in other countries. After all, to do our health check here in China there are approved hospitals which we have to use. Office staff who have only known this one country's system can't really imagine another way.

I ignored all this and went to my local doc down the road and it was all fine.
But YMMV.

[Harbin]

A few months ago, I did exactly what you want to do, but in a different post Soviet country.

I downloaded the "Medical exam for foreigner" form from the Chinese embassy in the US and took it to a local doctor and got all of the tests done. When it came time to get the visa, I mailed my passport and form to a visa agent in the US and had them do same day visa processing service. I didn't include my medical form and, luckily, the consular I used didn't require a medical form.

[Voyeur]

Alright. Thanks for the form. I went through the long sticky, but it starts in 2003, some of it may be outdated, and I was confused. It actually ends with someone asking a question very similar to mine--but no answer.

I'll go to the local gov't hospital, get it done and stamped, scan it, and then e-mail it over. It is only for the letter of invite--it is the provincial office that wants it. It will be cheap here, and I'll do it fast. Then, my employer can confirm it is enough with the Provincial office. If it isn't, then I'll try something else.

Thanks.

Now, any tips on how it will go in Hong Kong? My employer gas confirmed that in my province, foreigners can do the HK visa. I need to make sure that the invitation docs etc... specify HK, of course. Will there be a medical needed in Hong Kong? Or later in China?

[dean_a_jones]

Another medical will no doubt be needed later in China, when your employer wants to turn your z-visa into the residency permit itself. That will be really straightforward, just a visit to the local hospital and a few quick checks.

For the medical check in the Ukraine, the key tests will be the HIV/blood test. You might get away without the ECG/X-ray if they are expensive by getting the doctor to fill in the slots saying 'normal' or 'no problems'. As someone else mentioned, the key is getting the form officially stamped (on the back, and I think also a stamp that covers your picture/the form when I did it).

In terms of HK, as long as the paperwork is OK and lists HK as your place of application, it should be no problem, is pretty straightforward.

[Voyeur]

The mechanics of the form are actually more complex than I thought.

a) Does the form need to be 'typed'? Not all areas are selectable for input in PDF. What did people do? Use a typewriter? Convert it to Word?

b) It is unclear exactly what should go in each box, particularly the big blood test and ECG boxes etc... Does anyone have a sample form that has been completed?

c) I take it everything has to be in English--this could be a problem in Ukraine.

d) For the overseas medical did you need to attach and include the blood test report, the chest x-ray report, etc..

Anyone with tips on how they dealt with these challenges?

[roadwalker]

[johntpartee]

I was in Mexico City when I got my exam. I printed the form and took it to the doctor. When the tests were completed, he filled out everything with a pen. When I took it to the Chinese Embassy with my other stuff, they barely looked at it (they didn't even take the chest x-ray folder, I've still got it). I got the impression that it was not that important, they just wanted to know that you saw a doctor and that you don't have any STDs. You're going to have to get another physical in China, anyway, so.........

Most medical terms are pretty "universal", i.e., a doctor in any country sees "ECG" and knows what it means. Most of the blanks were filled in with "N" (normal). In the section where it has all the stuff about typhoid, smallpox, etc. the doctor wrote "Neg." (negative). The doctor didn't speak English, but I had a translator.

[Voyeur]

Does the Ukraine have anything to do with it if my actual Z visa is being obtained in Hong Kong? My understanding is this test is requested by the Province in china, and they just want a scan of the form to issue the letter of invitation. None of this goes to the Ukraine embassy at all, does it? So who gets originals? Hong Kong?

The problem I am having is that the bureaucratic Ukraine doctors think stamping the form means they are signing off on my medical history, which they have no way of knowing about.

[Voyeur]

[choudoufu]

[Voyeur]

So my Hong Kong stay could last longer than a day...that's gettin' expensive.

[choudoufu]

or you could check the googles.......

oh, look, here's an email for hong kong visa enquiries!!

Email: [email protected]

http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/bgfwxx/


and looky here, tells you whatchaneedtoknow!

Note: "Z" visa is required to provide Health Certificate issued by China Entry-Exit Inspection and Quarantine Bureau or HK public hospitals.

http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/qzlb/