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mambawamba
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We're in Shandong.
Also needs to be legalised by the Chinese Embassy in the UK. Had to get docs apostilled and legalised last year, bit miffed cos we asked if we needed to get it done at the time (when it would have been easier as we were there) and they said no, no bother, now it's all change and it needs to be done asap. Also change to regs in the UK means you can't ask for the docs yourself, your company has to request but they need to be registered. Will let you know how it plays out. |
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mambawamba
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Update, the CRB now the DBS service in the UK does not do checks for people overseas, spoke to lovely fella in Liverpool though.
Am on to the people he suggested, will update again when I've got definite info. |
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doogsville
Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Update, the CRB now the DBS service in the UK does not do checks for people overseas, spoke to lovely fella in Liverpool though.
Am on to the people he suggested, will update again when I've got definite info. |
You come from the wrong country  In Scotland you can still request your own. We use an organisation called Disclosure Scotland. The bummer is you can't use the online form unless you've lived in the UK for the past twelve months, so you have do it by post. You can still have someone do it for you though, who can then post it out here. They can arrange to have it notarised for you too, but it all takes time. The last time I had to have a disclosure for a job, in 2009 or 2010 I think, it was taking around six to eight weeks for them to come through. You have to receive it and then post it back to them, to a different department, to have it notarised, then have it sent here to China. I don't see many people from the UK who are already working here being able to provide a notarised certificate in less than about 8 weeks myself, so where does that leave you if you need your RP in less time than that?
I'm wondering if this isn't happening mainly in the north of China, on the back of the recent cases of convicted child molesters being found working in Beijing and Shanghai.
I just handed my passport to our FAO yesterday to get a new RP, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed it isn't necessary here in Guangdong as yet. That would give me another year to get a certificate if I need it for next time. |
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2ndlt_grease
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:39 am Post subject: |
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As far as I am aware, anyone in the UK can use the Disclosure Scotland service. Although, as has been stated, to do it online you do need to have been living in the UK for the past 12 months.
It is also possible for individuals from the UK to request a Subject Access check from the national police computer database (costs a tenner, form needs to be downloaded and sent by post), but this also requires evidence of address in the UK (through bank statements or utility bills). Does take up to 40 days to come through though. |
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GuestBob
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| 2ndlt_grease wrote: |
| It is also possible for individuals from the UK to request a Subject Access check from the national police computer database (costs a tenner, form needs to be downloaded and sent by post), but this also requires evidence of address in the UK (through bank statements or utility bills). Does take up to 40 days to come through though. |
Clever boy.
Thanks for this. |
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mambawamba
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Just to reiterate, I spoke with both the local police station in our county and the CRB/DBS central office in Liverpool today. You can't get a CRB/DBS check if you are a UK citizen and already overseas.
If anyone needs to contact them directly it's the CRB helpline 0870 9090811 which obviously won't work from China so use 00 44 151 676 1997.
Subject access is just you being able to check what they've got on the database about you, it's not a CRB/DBS check.
Mamba
@Doogsville, damn right, it's the wrongest of countries but fortunately I'm from the rightest of counties |
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GuestBob
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| mambawamba wrote: |
| Subject access is just you being able to check what they've got on the database about you, it's not a CRB/DBS check. |
Oh totally. But do the PSB know that?
I have read several posts from US folks who have said they just got a letter from the local sheriff's office and then Photoshopped a county seal onto the top of it and they were good to go.
Given that this is China... |
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2ndlt_grease
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| Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| GuestBob wrote: |
| mambawamba wrote: |
| Subject access is just you being able to check what they've got on the database about you, it's not a CRB/DBS check. |
Oh totally. But do the PSB know that?
I have read several posts from US folks who have said they just got a letter from the local sheriff's office and then Photoshopped a county seal onto the top of it and they were good to go.
Given that this is China... |
Indeed. It would be good to know what is actually expected when they state that a criminal background check is required. A subject access or basic disclosure may be considered fine... or not. From experience, both subject access and basic disclosure have been acceptable evidence of a clean criminal background when I h | |
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