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avigoldberg · Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Posts: 31 Location: China

第四条　外国文教专家原则上不超过65周岁，其连续在华工作一般不超过5年。

From this website:

http://www.wsc.zjut.edu.cn/newsDetail.jsp?id=913

It says: Article #4. The foreign expert is not more than 65 and generally has not lived in China for more than 5 years.

I've known of several people in Zhejiang that have had to resign their posts because of this obscure rule. Specifically in Ningbo.

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Sounds like as per usual it's up to the interpretation of whatever PSB officer reads it, and how well he or she slept, or nice his lunch was that day.
In Wuxi it has been interpreted (at last check) as a "foreign expert" cannot stay at the same school for more than 5 years. I know a couple who were at the same university for 9 years and the school got around it by changing the department / campus they supposedly worked for.

kev7161 · Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China

hmmmmm . . . 10 years and counting.

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Here is a link to safea's pdf of the document. It is provision #4 of the first part. Found it easily by searching for the document quoted by the university.

http://webadmin.safea.gov.cn/pic/wjs/1315184536.Binder1_110905.pdf

Notice that this is called the national document on foreign workers. It is not called law.

GeminiTiger · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:29 am Post subject:

This really is two things.

Age of Teacher - Your more likely to have a problem with this rule as certain schools seemingly will not consider some people over 55, 60 or 65. Part of it is apparently the problem of health insurance. Over the years this has come up much more often on Dave's but it is also somewhat randomly enforced and sometimes used to get rid of people for whatever reason the schools have.

Duration of Continuous Resident Permits - It seems that uninterrupted legal teaching in China is penalized. Sichuan province is especially known for it's enforcement of this SAFAE GUIDELINE. There is no other place that seems to have 100% enforcement. Again these kind of things can be used to get rid of teachers for whatever reason especially if you have been getting raises for 5 years they might just want a younger and cheaper model.

Neither of these things are national laws as states by posters previously.

mike w · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:36 am Post subject:

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Winter · Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject:

Slightly OT, but this is really interesting. It sounds like most of the FTs working in China are... I guess we'd say "fully grown"? My only other experience is Korea, and most of the teachers I met there were well under 30.