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Chronos
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I read the website of the Chinese Consulate here in Los Angeles and it has no mention of a health check required with your application. Then I called them and the person there said that they do not required it here, but it will be required when I am in China. So maybe different parts of the USA also have different requirements.
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Toast
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| Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| So maybe different parts of the USA also have different requirements. |
Yep - get used to it. At times even different officials sitting beside each other will have different requirements. |
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teachering228
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| My FAO is asking me for a stamped examination in my home country(in addition to the one I will be going through in China) and one option I think might work is to goto a place where they do examinations for immigrants/green card applicants entering the USA (USCIS Form I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record) I don't know the cost(probably not as cheap as clinic) but this seems to be an official route considering the ambiguity from everyone. |
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Bud Powell
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In 2010, when I last headed to China, the embassy didn't receive a copy of the test. The recruiter sent it along to the FAO who sent it to god knows where. I told the recruiter that I didn't have a current health check. My last one was over a year old. I was told to send it along with the other paperwork necessary to obtain the letter of invitation. I finally did get a full exam, along with the battery of four liver tests that test for alcoholism, and the three kinds of hepatitis and AIDS/HIV.
This may have changed.
One thing for certain, you won't need the x ray, and if your local doctor questions this, just ask him to note "essentially normal" because the Chinese health dept will probably screw up the x ray five times before it gets it right.
And make sure that the clinic stamps the exam at least once on each page. The Chinese put as much faith in a rubber stamp as anything else.
By the way, where can I take a look a current form? I wonder how much it has changed (if at all?).
And yes, you'll have to go through it all over again once you arrive. Tell your doctor that. He might show mercy and just scribble unintelligible things and not charge you for unnecessary tests. The liver test was (in 201o) the big test.
When you take your urine test, try to keep track of it after you hand it in. Last time, I watched as mine got mixed up with another guy's sample because we had to change places in line. They talked to him first in Chinese and put a label on my tiny little test tube (!) Then they just looked at me and put a label on his tube. |
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mcloo7
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Location: Hangzhou
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| Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Bud Powell wrote: |
In 2010, when I last headed to China, the embassy didn't receive a copy of the test. The recruiter sent it along to the FAO who sent it to god knows where. I told the recruiter that I didn't have a current health check. My last one was over a year old. I was told to send it along with the other paperwork necessary to obtain the letter of invitation. I finally did get a full exam, along with the battery of four liver tests that test for alcoholism, and the three kinds of hepatitis and AIDS/HIV.
This may have changed.
One thing for certain, you won't need the x ray, and if your local doctor questions this, just ask him to note "essentially normal" because the Chinese health dept will probably screw up the x ray five times before it gets it right.
And make sure that the clinic stamps the exam at least once on each page. The Chinese put as much faith in a rubber stamp as anything else.
By the way, where can I take a look a current form? I wonder how much it has changed (if at all?).
And yes, you'll have to go through it all over again once you arrive. Tell your doctor that. He might show mercy and just scribble unintelligible things and not charge you for unnecessary tests. The liver test was (in 201o) the big test.
When you take your urine test, try to keep track of it after you hand it in. Last time, I watched as mine got mixed up with another guy's sample because we had to change places in line. They talked to him first in Chinese and put a label on my tiny little test tube (!) Then they just looked at me and put a label on his tube. |
A recruiter sent me a health form. It has three lab test requirements on it: HIV, siphillus(sp?), and serodiagnosis ( or something like that.) Unless that last one tests something in the liver Im not sure if there is a liver test. I think it has something to do with blood serums. What exactly are they checking for in the alcoholism test? Are they testing for a damaged liver, or can they tell if you are disposed to alcoholism? |
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GuestBob
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| mcloo7 wrote: |
| A recruiter sent me a health form. It has three lab test requirements on it: HIV, siphillus(sp?), and serodiagnosis ( or something like that.) Unless that last one tests something in the liver Im not sure if there is a liver test. I think it has something to do with blood serums. What exactly are they checking for in the alcoholism test? Are they testing for a damaged liver, or can they tell if you are disposed to alcoholism? |
Blood serology can indicate liver disease (I think, it's been a long time since my last biology lesson) but your liver has to be pretty badly diseased for it to be obvious. They palpate your liver during the in-China medical examination too.
Regardless, and I am just throwing this out there, don't be offended if this isn't you, if you are a recovering alcoholic then you need to think very hard before coming to an environment in which you will often be isolated and underemployed. I have known one or two ex-alcoholics who have managed to stay sober but I have witnessed more "death spirals": two of which ended in hospitalisation. |
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Toast
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| GuestBob wrote: |
| mcloo7 wrote: |
| A recruiter sent me a health form. It has three lab test requirements on it: HIV, siphillus(sp?), and serodiagnosis ( or something like that.) Unless that last one tests something in the liver Im not sure if there is a liver test. I think it has something to do with blood serums. What exactly are they checking for in the alcoholism test? Are they testing for a damaged liver, or can they tell if you are disposed to alcoholism? |
Blood serology can indicate liver disease (I think, it's been a long time since my last biology lesson) but your liver has to be pretty badly diseased for it to be obvious. They palpate your liver during the in-China medical examination too.
Regardless, and I am just throwing this out there, don't be offended if this isn't you, if you are a recovering alcoholic then you need to think very hard before coming to an environment in which you will often be isolated and underemployed. I have known one or two ex-alcoholics who have managed to stay sober but I have witnessed more "death spirals": two of which ended in hospitalisation. |
There are certain indicators in your blood such as GGT enzymes and Uric Acid content, the readings for which on their own can mean many things, but when a number of them combined show high it can often point to alcohol abuse.
In China the health check will likely include a gut ultrasound where they'll also check your liver. I did have a mildly fatty liver last time around, and a French co-teacher had an "Advanced" fatty liver. I drink moderately. He doesn't at all, so can (I guess) occur as a result of issues *other* than alcoholism....shit diet, certain meds etc. They noted it on a separate part of the form in both cases, but we "passed" the medical check.
Not sure if being a drunk however is cause for a visa rejection - Based on my experiences with co-teachers I almost thought it mandatory to be so for expat ESL teachers in Asia. |
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Bud Powell
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Are they testing for a damaged liver, or can they tell if you are disposed to alcoholism?
Both plus hepatitis A, B, and C.
Having a fatty liver doesn't necessarily indicate alcoholism. According to my doctor, the body stores fat in different places in the body, and the liver is one of those places. It is affected by alcohol intake, exercise, and diet.
Consider this: pate du fois gras (goose liver pate) comes from geese that are force fed food that causes their livers to enlarge and become fatty. They don't get a drop of alcohol to go with it. |
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