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Environmental Japanese People?

 
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Environmental Japanese People? Reply with quote

How green are the Japanese? Please write your examples.

Green:
1. Recycling. The Japanese have been washing out and separating trash long before people in my country, Canada,, ever did.

2. A Japanese friend told me that some years ago, the Tokyo government started a massive tree planting campaign to reduce the air pollution in the city. I think Tokyo's air is pretty good.

3. Shampoo and household cleaner refill packs. You buy various liquid soaps in plastic envelope-type packages and refill your plastic bottle. This is less wasteful than buying another plastic bottle. I wish we had these back home.

4. Lack of litter. The Japanese seem to cooperate well by not littering the streets.

Not Green:
1. Plastic conbini obentos. This horrifies me. Not only does the plastic either get burned creating toxic fumes or stays in some landfill for the next 400 years, but heating a cheap plastic container by microwave has me wondering if chemicals from the plastic aren't leeching their way into the food?

2. Everyone, even the dry cleaner, will give you a disposable plastic shopping bag. I see few Japanese people using re-usable shopping bags. I use re-usable shopping bags because they're big, strong and have more comfortable handles. Plus, if I don't use them, I have more disposable shopping bags than I know what to do with (even after using them as trash bags).

So, what are your observations about the Japanese and the environment? They're quite good I think.
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kah5217



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh, I don't know how they do things in your Japan, but in my Japan, we have recycle bins in front of the supermarkets for bento trays, and a number of the stores (and every supermarket) encourage you to use your own bag via discount or just charging for plastic bags.

Plus, you can always say no when they ask you to heat up the food, and they sell mug versions of cup noodles if you want to avoid foam.
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qwertyu2



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Environmental Japanese People? Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
How green are the Japanese? Please write your examples.

Green:
1. Recycling. The Japanese have been washing out and separating trash long before people in my country, Canada,, ever did.

Why do I suspect that this is all for appearances sake and all the carefully separated garbage eventually goes into one big landfill together?
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Kaguyahime



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps of interest:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/29/japan-leads-field-plastic-recycling
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaguyahime wrote:
Perhaps of interest:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/29/japan-leads-field-plastic-recycling
I'd hope so. Seeing how they have a fetish for wrapping everything individually.
They do have some good recycling programs to be fair.

Though Japan seems to hate all fresh water, and has some sort of need to pave all estuaries.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes mountains get removed for rock to build more highways and pave things. Rice fields and gardens keep japan sane, but I'm sick of gravel parks. The idea of weeding here is to pull up every single blade of grass conceivable. Most houses have a garden used for growing plants, or everything paved or graveled or virtually no space around homes. Lawns are generally unheard of.
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The air quality is reasonable in Tokyo not because of the trees (haven't noticed many new ones around here and I have lived in the area for 10 years), but because of Japan having some of the strictest emission controls in the world for cars.

I really doubt all the rubbish here goes into a landfill somewhere- where exactly would they hide 30 million people's rubbish in the case of Tokyo? Even if this country had the space for it any landfill would be filled up in no time flat.

The ward I live in has a recyclable plastic category- that's where the bento trays go, I guess. I agree that the whole concept of bentos in plastic trays in wasteful though.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokyo has detailed information about environment, waste disposal and air quality in English - http://www.kankyo.metro.tokyo.jp/en/data/

JCPRA statistics indicate that plastic recycling increased over 400% since 2000. http://www.jcpra.or.jp/eng/index.html

No mystery about where your waste goes as long as you are conscientious about sorting it and putting it in the right bin on the right day.
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qwertyu2



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TokyoLiz wrote:
No mystery about where your waste goes as long as you are conscientious about sorting it and putting it in the right bin on the right day.

Probably true. Of course, these are the same people who tell you Tohoku rice is just fine, too.
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Shonai Ben



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

qwertyu2 wrote:
TokyoLiz wrote:
No mystery about where your waste goes as long as you are conscientious about sorting it and putting it in the right bin on the right day.

Probably true. Of course, these are the same people who tell you Tohoku rice is just fine, too.


.......i live in Tohoku.........and yes the rice is fine.......along with everything else.
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qwertyu2



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shonai Ben wrote:
.......i live in Tohoku.........and yes the rice is fine.......along with everything else.


I'd like to take your word for it.

However, stories like this do not inspire confidence:

Quote:
Fukushima nuclear plant operator Tepco on Monday admitted for the first time that radioactive groundwater is flowing into the sea, fueling fears that marine life is being poisoned.

...

Tepco said earlier this year that a fish found with radiation more than 2,500 times the legal limit had been caught in a port on Fukushima No. 1′s premises. It also said last week that around 2,000 people who worked at the plant now face a heightened risk of thyroid cancer.


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/07/22/national/tepco-now-admits-radioactive-water-entering-the-sea-at-fukushima-no-1/#.Ue5jlG1aOqM
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese toilets with the sinks on top are ingenious water savers. I hope they spread around the world as water becomes scarcer.

I didn't use to use mine for hand washing, but now I am on a money-saving mission, so I can save money by reducing my water consumption.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as there's soap I'm all for them, but I notice some people don't keep soap by it so I just use the sink. I'm a bit of a germaphobe when it comes to toilets. I'm one of those no matter what I must have soap and water to wash my hands types.
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssjup81 wrote:
As long as there's soap I'm all for them, but I notice some people don't keep soap by it so I just use the sink. I'm a bit of a germaphobe when it comes to toilets. I'm one of those no matter what I must have soap and water to wash my hands types.


I guess the people who don't keep soap by their toilet-sink probably don't wash their hands there either. This is too bad really. I guess they have a negative feeling about being close to the toilet. That water is perfectly clean.

For the germaphobe, I would suggest always washing your hands at the toilet-sink (with soap) except when you're about to eat something with your hands. I think that makes sense.
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