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An offer to teach in Linfen that I will refuse, but.........
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JoeKing



Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: An offer to teach in Linfen that I will refuse, but......... Reply with quote

I feel honored just to be asked.

How many people do you personally know who can say that they had a job offer to teach in the single most polluted place on earth??

http://www.vice.com/toxic/toxic-linfen-china

I can't wait to tell my friends!
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago I was chatting on Skype with a recruiter that was trying to talk me into taking a job in Shanxi province.


Me: Um, isn't that the most polluted province in China ?
Recruiter: So what, doesn't matter.
Me: Ok, thanks for your time, bye !




Amazing video, thanks for the link.
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I knew next to nothing about it, but thankfully, there is Google, and there is Dave's ESL.

Oh, but here is what my recruiter told me about it:

Linfen City Introduction:

Location: Linfen City is situated in southwestern of Shanxi Province, on the middle reaches of the Yellow River. It neighbors Changzhi and Jincheng in the east, Jinzhong and Lvliang in the north, Yuncheng in the south and finally, it is separated from Shaanxi Province by the Yellow River in the west.

History: Known as Pingyang in the ancient time, Linfen was once the capital of China during the Jin Kingdom in the Warring States Period (476BC-221BC). During the Qin Dynasty (221BC-206BC), it belonged to the Hedong Shire, one of the forty-eighty shires of the nation. Many places in present Linfen had their names originated during the Sui Dynasty (581-618). Physical Features: There are Zhongtiao Mountain, Taiyue Mountain and Lvliang Mountains in the east and west of the city. In the center stands the Linfen Basin. Mountains and hills are the main characteristic of the land, occupying about eighty percent of the city's territory. Fenhe River, one of the main branches of the Yellow River, flows through the city centre.
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beckyshaile



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you think any other city or the world in general isn't polluted or that your life will actually be shortened by living there for a while? Media-hype.
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beckyshaile wrote:
And you think any other city or the world in general isn't polluted ?

Not nearly to the extent Linfen is - it's number 1.

beckyshaile wrote:
or that your life will actually be shortened by living there for a while?
Yes, I think this!

beckyshaile wrote:
Media-hype.
How is it media-hype? Even China admits it.
http://www.worstpolluted.org/projects_reports/display/22

" China's State Environmental Protection Agency says that Linfen has the worst air in the country, which is saying something, considering that the World Bank has reported that 16 of the 20 most polluted cities in the world are Chinese.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1661031_1661028_1661016,00.html
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dean_a_jones



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beckyshaile wrote:
And you think any other city or the world in general isn't polluted or that your life will actually be shortened by living there for a while? Media-hype.


Idiotic statement.
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Baishou



Joined: 02 May 2013
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Location: Dongbei

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, why pick on Linfen? "Toxic" and "China" seem to be almost synonymous these days:

Life in a Toxic Country:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/sunday-review/life-in-a-toxic-country.html

China's Toxic Rice Bowl:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324787004578496761041745772.html

China's Toxic Water:

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/03/chinas-toxic-water/100478/

China is Building Thousands of Homes on Toxic Wasteland:

http://inhabitat.com/investigative-journalists-uncover-chinese-homes-built-on-toxic-wastelands/

The Chinese Dream Is Smothered by Toxic Smog:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/618f93a8-b318-11e2-b5a5-00144feabdc0.html

Five NY Firms Charged With Importing Toxic Toys From China:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/02/ny-firm-charged-with-importing-toxic-toys-from-china/

Made in China: Our Toxic, Imported Air Pollution:

http://discovermagazine.com/2011/apr/18-made-in-china-our-toxic-imported-air-pollution

"Toxic" and "China": 66,500,000 results on Google and counting!
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baishou wrote:
Hey, why pick on Linfen? "Toxic" and "China" seem to be almost synonymous these days:


"Toxic" and "China": 66,500,000 results on Google and counting!


Well, for my part, I was not really trying to get all serious or anything -the topic has pretty much been covered already on Dave's.

I was just JoeKing, that's all...mostly about the recruiter side of it....never expected to be challenged on it.


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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, when the Western world builds technology to eliminate pollution they will rue the day when China buys that technology from them and owns everything like Mr. Burns on the Simpsons.

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080514/Season-Finales/Simpsons-Shot-Mr-Burns_l.jpg
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Baishou



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeKing wrote:
Well, for my part, I was not really trying to get all serious or anything -the topic has pretty much been covered already on Dave's.

I was just JoeKing, that's all...mostly about the recruiter side of it....never expected to be challenged on it.


What was the offer, anyway? Doesn't seem like the local universities add much in terms of "hazard pay":

http://www.chinaesljob.com/job/41340/english-teachers-for-a-public-university-in-downtown-of-linfen-city-shanxi-province-china-at-aileen/

Zachary Mexico has a chapter on Linfen in his excellent book China Underground (2009):

http://www.amazon.com/China-Underground-Zachary-Mexico/dp/1593762232/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376272218&sr=1-1&keywords=Underground+China

If memory serves, he left the city much sooner than expected.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

China= It's ALL polluted - some cities are just less polluted than others.
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baishou wrote:
JoeKing wrote:
Well, for my part, I was not really trying to get all serious or anything -the topic has pretty much been covered already on Dave's.

I was just JoeKing, that's all...mostly about the recruiter side of it....never expected to be challenged on it.


What was the offer, anyway? Doesn't seem like the local universities add much in terms of "hazard pay":



The offer was for a public HS, RMB10000, 20 hours of class time - not bad, under normal conditions...I would not consider that enough hazard pay though.
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Baishou



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeKing wrote:
The offer was for a public HS, RMB10000, 20 hours of class time - not bad, under normal conditions...I would not consider that enough hazard pay though.


I'd do it for RMB100,000 per month and a free space suit.
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JoeKing



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baishou wrote:
JoeKing wrote:
The offer was for a public HS, RMB10000, 20 hours of class time - not bad, under normal conditions...I would not consider that enough hazard pay though.


I'd do it for RMB100,000 per month and a free space suit.


Hey I just turned down Disney English as well, because after reading some posts of people who worked there, I knew I could not stomach their "environment" either.
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kev7161



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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Writing on the wall: "If you dump trash here, your entire family will die!"

Now that's driving the point home! Laughing
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