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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:11 pm    Post subject: Poetic Spam Reply with quote

I get a lot of great absurdist poetry contained within Spam these days. Today I got a really great one, which came with an ad for a cable tv enhancer (subject: 'Turkey 8543 midwives'--- makes me really want to open it an buy buy buy!). I thought you might enjoy it. I certainly do.

Ahem. The spam poem by Salvatore Sadler


Rupert and I took fighter pilot behind tenor
(with crank case around bonbon, pickup truck defined by sandwich.
Rupert, the friend of Rupert and beams with joy
with ruffian beyond dahlia.
Furthermore, crank case near flies into a rage,
and debutante beyond demon approach gonad behind.
And play pinochle with the dark side of her satellite.
nihilism
porridge
casualty
chalky
delectate
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Kurochan



Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:45 pm    Post subject: Yes! Reply with quote

I've noticed that too! I've started saving them! I wonder how/why they're generated. I have one that starts "Short order cook 2287 gonads," and one that includes the phrase "midwife among halfbacks is sprightly." A lot of them seem to included "midwife," for some reason.
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zaneth



Joined: 31 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious? where have you been hanging out for absurdist poets to want to spam you? All I get are offers to help me enlarge my membership. Come to think of it, where have I been hanging out?
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cha muir



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:13 am    Post subject: Erin Moure Reply with quote

Good one Yar. Laughing

Reminds me. A few years back a canadian poet by the name of erin moure wrote a book of "poetry" with computer assistance using computer generated phrases. The book is called pillage laud. Check it out.

cha
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's piece, brief but poignant.

Ahem.

Chlorophyllby Singer

Plummer--
tub,
the last adventures.



It has a summery haiku feel to it-- green wetness, still pools, a hint of freedom from routine... Rather reminiscent of William Carlos Williams.
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:12 am    Post subject: Remember: spam spelled backwards = maps Reply with quote

Dear yaramaz,
I see what you mean:

"so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens."

Regards,
John
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The random words are generated in order to bypass Bayesian Spam filters. they originally chose a load of words at random but the Bayesian filters learned to discount lists of words that weren't collocated according to normal sentence rules, so they have begun to acquire this surrealist look.

John's quoting e.e.cummings, I believe.
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John,

That was exactly what I was thinking-- that and cool, succulent stolen plums plucked from the fridge without remorse, and city streets glazed with rain and echoing with fire engine noises.

Whoever devises these Spam poems must have had a major in English at University--- maybe this is where they go when they dont want to TEFL.

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Yaramaz
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Stephen,

John is correct.
See: http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/s_z/williams/williams.htm

Sincerely,

Yaramaz
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Ludwig



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephen Jones wrote:
[...] the Bayesian filters learned to discount lists of words that weren't collocated according to normal sentence rules [...]

Some of my earlier linguistic study was within Good-Turing Frequency Estimates within Learnability Theory, so could you please perhaps elaborate on what is meant here by "normal sentence rules" (and how, even if this were true, it would disallow certain collocations)?

Quite obviously, you do not have a clue what you are referring to! The 'normal sentence rules' you refer to are far from understood, and are syntactic (and/or morphosyntactic) in nature. Collocations, in stark contrast, are semantically governed!
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Stephen Jones,
Aha - got you. I've got to admit, though, that it does LOOK like a lot of e. e. cumming's stuff. For example:

"my sweet old etcetera
aunt lucy during the recent

war could and what
is more did tell you just
what everybody was fighting

for,
my sister

isabel created hundreds
(and
hundreds)of socks not to
mention shirts fleaproof earwarmers

etcetera wristers etcetera, my
mother hoped that

i would die etcetera
bravely of course my father used
to become hoarse talking about how it was
a privilege and if only he
could meanwhile my

self etcetera lay quietly
in the deep mud et

cetera
(dreaming,
et
cetera, of
Your smile
eyes knees and of your Etcetera)"

Regards,
John
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: ... or was it Francine? Reply with quote

Here's one I just got today:

nation related to satiate beyond bubble bath.And dance with the dark side of her rattlesnake.Unlike so many necromancers who have made their fractured boy to us.But they need to remember how single-handledly toward bartender returns home.When food stamp inside burglar is highly paid, stalactite about seek necromancer over.He called her Francine (or was it Francine?).
regent prosecute conspiratorial arianism cacophonist concision
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine isnt as good, but here goes (minimalist spam du jour)


pirogue cram titillate
discretionary .

tsarina pandanus
christina
dementia .
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yaramaz



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's Spam Poem is quite bizarre, as it is for a home re-mortgaging/investment scheme and is titled:

Inertia


stickpin,to stab himself,
stickpin,to stab himself,
stickpin,to stab himself.
stickpin,to stab himself,
stickpin,to stab himself.

=====

errrrrrr, so, kind of macabre, no?
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been_there



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/01/spam_poetry_deadline/
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