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Which country if looking for respect and decent money?

 
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Professional TEFLer



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Which country if looking for respect and decent money? Reply with quote

Which country would be good to live and teach in if one is looking for a quiet atmosphere where people actually respect their neighbors?

A developed country would be nice. Perhaps Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan?

Clean streets (like in the U.S. and other developed countries) would also be nice. Oh, and a country that actually pays good and on time.

For example, I hear that Vietnam pays between 18 to 20 bucks an hour (but from what I hear and have seen, it looks pretty 3rd world and dirty) and South Korea pays for your apartment.

Any suggestions?
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aummua



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany.
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aummua



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany.
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Professional TEFLer



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks aum!
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decent money for EFL in Germany? Do tell more...
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he said; in addition, aummua, you're a US citizen?
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Do tell more...
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany is very nice, but unless one is pretty highly qualified (more than a CELTA and some experience, particularly given that one's experience is not in Europe) it's subsistence level at best. And visa nightmares for non-EU citizens.
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JN



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far (3 yrs. this time) I've survived in Germany and sometimes gotten more and sometimes less than 20 euros, but I've only done part-time work. Outside of Berlin appears to be better, which is where I am heading, but it's a struggle for visa and job as a US citizen. I might mentioned I am fluent in German and have an MATESOL. Maybe someone has had an easier experience, but that is mine so far.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professional TEFLer wrote:
Which country would be good to live and teach in if one is looking for a quiet atmosphere where people actually respect their neighbors?

There are variations of this question posted throughout this forum, and as always, for each one, the responses depend upon nationality, the level and type of qualifications (university degree and major as well as TEFL certification), and number of years of experience. That being said, it would be useful if you provided some sort of teacher profile; otherwise, you'll likely get a wide range of responses---some relevant, others not.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to Russia. Rates of pay far high than in Germany, it seems. May not be as well-organised as life in Berlin, though.

Respect from students is not dramatically high, however. Just the standard you would expect from normal dealings with civilised people. No God-like, rock-star status granted. If one cannot teach, though, expect less than even that...

Life on the streets is the same. No special status or treatment just because you are foreign. But Russians are usually very good neighbours. They mind their own business, but would probably be on hand in an emergency. No needless small talk in the lift or hallways etc. Drilling and redecoration noise can very often be an issue though.

Streets are not very clean in winter, with ice and slush everywhere, despite the armies of street-cleaners.
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