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edbuch



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Getting a Z visa in the USA Reply with quote

Can anyone tell me if it is true that in order to get a z visa in the USA you can no longer just go to the embassy or consulate and get it within a few days but instead you must use an agency and that the agency may take some time to process your visa?

The reason I ask is that this is the story I am getting from a foreign teacher who claims he wants to come over here from the States to take up a job he has accepted but even at this late stage he is claiming he still cannot get the visa.

Also, I am just curious about this. If it is true, maybe other people will want to know.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one is in the U.S., it may depend upon the location of the Consulate. Things change at the consulates. Your best bet is to contact the Travel Document Systems in your Chinese Consulate's jurisdiction and ask what the prevailing procedure and lead time is. You can't always depend upon the consulate to have current information on its website.

I refer to Travel Document Systems because they handle literally hundreds of documents every week, and they know every consulates' procedures and requirements. In both the New York and the Washington, D.C. Chinese consulates, procedures for applying for a Z visa and other visas have changed a few times during the past three years.

Unless one lives in the city where the Chinese consulate resides, he's really better off using a courier service to handle the processing. If you have made a mistake in the simple paperwork (it happens) or if you apply with the wrong paperwork, they'll catch it. Unless you need your visa in a very short period of time, there's no advantage to applying for the visa yourself. You may go all of the way to the consulate, drop off the paperwork, then be told to pick it up in two days.

Go with a courier service. It's worth the added expense. Next day FedEx return of your passport with the visa costs less than $20.00, and the charge of the courier service is worth it to spare yourself a headache.

I've done both, and I've found that if I can live for a week (maximum completion time including FedEx) without my passport, the courier service is worth it.
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
If one is in the U.S., it may depend upon the location of the Consulate. Things change at the consulates. Your best bet is to contact the Travel Document Systems in your Chinese Consulate's jurisdiction and ask what the prevailing procedure and lead time is.


I was considering driving to Houston myself as the visa agents I found via Google all had mixed reviews, but these guys seem to be highly rated on several sites. Thanks for the head's up. I had thought that I'd be able to pay extra for same-day service if I went in person, but upon further research it seems that option is only available for emergency situations. TDS does have some extra requirements that the consulate doesn't mention, some being basic, but one concerns me. They list a 'business letter' in addition to the standard invitation letter and work permit, do you guys have any experience with obtaining this from the school? The part that concerns be is about expenses being covered. Here's the verbiage direct from the TDS site:

A business letter of responsibility (sample) is required, to be typewritten on your company letterhead (Please include company's Fax Number as part of the letterhead) and addressed to:
Consulate of China, Visa Section, Houston, TX
The letter must explain all of the following:
Nature of business to be performed and what the company in China does.
Name and address (i.e full contact information) of reference to be visited in China
This letter should request Multiple Entries visa if required
Guarantee of return transportation and sufficient funds for the visit
The letter should be signed by an officer of the company other than the applicant.


They provide a sample letter which seems to be even more inclusive regarding expenses:

"(Your company) hereby guarantees the financial expenses of the applicant while (he/she) is visiting your country and (his/her) return transportation to the USA. We appreciate the issue of the visa without delay."

I realize this is probably more for formality's sake, but I have a hard time seeing my school understand this. Again, the Houston consulate only lists work permit, invitation letter (and photocopy), passport and extra photo, visa application and proof of travel as requirements.
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure you are looking into the proper visa. Initially I thought they meant just a simple letter of invitation but that last bit you mentioned sounds like...I don't even know what. Nobody is going to assume your expenses. The bit about you having enough funds sounds like an L(tourist) visa....the guarantee I can only imagine being related to an F(business) visa though it does not seem right to me at all. I came over initially on an F and didn't have those headaches.

Find another company imo.
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...A business letter of responsibility (sample) is required,..." for a business visa.


a quickie google search sez you're reading traveldocs business visa page.


China Business Visa SF - Traveldocs.com
www.traveldocs.com/?page=china-business-visa-sf‎
A business letter of responsibility (sample) is required, to be typewritten on your company letterhead and addressed to: Consulate of China, Visa Section, San ...


you wanna apply for a z-visa.

http://www.traveldocs.com/index.php?page=china-work-z-jurisdiction
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hope you're right but I clicked apply for Work Visa "Z", then chose Texas jurisdiction. Here's the link once I got to the requirements page:

http://www.traveldocs.com/index.php?page=china-z-visa-ho
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just read their texas page. work visa also asks for the business letter.
click the link to the sample! ridikulous.

*****hmmm.....traveldocs won't open in hainan.********

previous poster is right, these guys have their heads up their kerry.
they also require proof of residence in order to use specific consulates,
which ain't the way it works.

try these guys...........visaexpress. they offer same day service if you
go through the san francisco office.

http://www.visaexpress.net/china/chinaworkvisa.htm

(i used them way back when for my long, long ago student visa.)

psss....visa express $49. the other guys $80.
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
try these guys...........visaexpress. they offer same day service if you go through the san francisco office.

http://www.visaexpress.net/china/chinaworkvisa.htm


Always makes me nervous when companies have blatant typos on their pages haha: "CHINA WORK VISA SERVICE INSTRUCATION"

I might give them a shot though. 2 recent yelpers gave them 5 stars. Thanks!
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't really matter which service you use, I recommended TDS because they've been reliable,PLUS they answer the phone.

Again, it doesn't much matter which service you use. I recommend that you call the courier service for clarification.

It sounds like you read requirements for an F visa.

Make a call.
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
It doesn't really matter which service you use, I recommended TDS because they've been reliable,PLUS they answer the phone.

It sounds like you read requirements for an F visa.

Make a call.


I read the correct requirements as confirmed by someone else in this thread. But yes, I did make a call and yes, they did answer promptly. The gentleman I spoke with advised the Business Letter is only required for specific situations which do not apply to ESL teachers. The example he provided was someone working for a Western company who was being relocated. I'll probably go with the cheaper of the 2 as they both have pretty good reviews in my area.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Consulate will you use? I went through the Los Angeles consulate. If you pay an extra $40 and start early, you may finish it in one day doing it yourself. I prefer to drive there and back and do it myself, but that's just me. Oh, bring two passport pics, or you can do that down the hall for $10, if I recall correctly.

This was for a Z visa.


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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lost.
Why all the chat about F and L when OP only asked about Z?
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I'm lost.
Why all the chat about F and L when OP only asked about Z?


Because one of the travel doc service sites mentioned a business letter of support, etc..
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
Non Sequitur wrote:
I'm lost.
Why all the chat about F and L when OP only asked about Z?


Because one of the travel doc service sites mentioned a business letter of support, etc..


For a Z?
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parnett



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just returned from the US with a new Z visa courtesy of the Consulate in NYC. This is the second time I have done this- the first time I drove from upstate NY to NYC to get it. Total cost to submit my papers and then pick up my passport 5 days later was more than $650 (hotels in NYC are not cheap). This time I used an agency from NYC to do the work for me. The total cost was about $440 and that doesn't include all the stress I didn't have to deal with driving to NYC (6 hours), staying at a hotel, taking a train in, waiting in line, taking a train back to the hotel, and then driving home. There was a minor problem with my paperwork which caused a one day delay, but all in all, it was much easier using the agency.
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