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Possible for non-natives to teach in Shanghai?

 
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yuuzan



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:49 am    Post subject: Possible for non-natives to teach in Shanghai? Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm interested in teaching in Shanghai. I have a CELTA and a Master's but I'm a non-native speaker (i.e. not from Canada, US, UK, OZ, NZ, RSA).

Is it actually possible for me to work in Shanghai legally (on a Z-visa)? I know many people teach on an F-visa but I'd really rather do things on the up-and-up.

Would love to hear from non-native Teachers in Shanghai!

Cheers!
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends. What did you major in at university?
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yuuzan



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai Noon wrote:
It depends. What did you major in at university?


BA in Social Science
MA in Contemporary Asian Studies
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm... That's tricky. As of January 1st, 2013, SAFEA requires that native English teachers hold both a bachelor's degree (in any discipline) and some kind of TESOL certificate (a CELTA would be totally fine). Non-native speakers need to have majored in ESL education in their home country. However, a school might be able to convince SAFEA to grant you a Foreign Expert Certificate for you to work as a subject (non-ESL) teacher, though I can't imagine that there is much demand in Shanghai for Asian Studies. If there is something teachable in your bachelor's degree, maybe you could try to sell yourself to a lower tier international school; the kind that specializes in sending Chinese students to study abroad. There are many of these all across China.

Best of luck! Smile
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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai Noon wrote:
As of January 1st, 2013, SAFEA requires that native English teachers hold both a bachelor's degree (in any discipline) and some kind of TESOL certificate (a CELTA would be totally fine). Non-native speakers need to have majored in ESL education in their home country.


what? are these regulations specific to shanghai? they sure ain't safea
'requirements.'


almost forgetted: OP....what passport do you has?
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
Shanghai Noon wrote:
As of January 1st, 2013, SAFEA requires that native English teachers hold both a bachelor's degree (in any discipline) and some kind of TESOL certificate (a CELTA would be totally fine). Non-native speakers need to have majored in ESL education in their home country.


what? are these regulations specific to shanghai? they sure ain't safea
'requirements.'


almost forgetted: OP....what passport do you has?


I tried to look it up on SAFEA's English website but I got nowhere. I guess they are specific to Shanghai. As of January 1st, my former company could no longer hire ANY non-natives who did not have ESL teaching credentials. Before January 1st, they could hire degree-holders from anywhere in the EU. Of course, the supply of teachers is far greater in Shanghai than in other parts of China, so they can afford to be a little more picky.
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yuuzan



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai Moon: Thanks for the replies. It's a shame that nationality is more important than actual qualifications. I'll see if any opportunities present themselves but it looks like countries other than China would offer better options.

Choudoufu: I hold a Dutch passport. English is my primary language though, but unfortunately the regulations don't recognize the existence of native-level English speakers outside of a select group of countries.
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tricky part of your question is the master's degree. I don't know if that changes anything. My school has a non-native with a master's who got an FEC, but he did it some years ago in another province.
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yuuzan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky is definitely the right word. I've sent out some applications and am getting the impression that it's possible - but not easy - to get a position. Should I be lucky enough to secure a position in SH, I'll be sure to post about it here.
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