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DCHun
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I don't understand how it would be 'unpaid' or 'extra' classes. You're doing the same amount of hours but on a different day. Its not hard to see why the students would want to reschedule...you could turn a 3-consecutive day break (Oct. 1st - 3rd) into a 9-consecutive day break (Sept 29th - Oct 6th).
For me, rescheduling would be a no-brainer (except at my school we already have the whole week off and my boss is a dick about moving classes around). |
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Non Sequitur
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I'm overwhelmed by the lack of direction/guidance given to me as it is
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Prepare to be underwhelmed; last minute ANYTHING is very common here. The good news is you'll come to expect it and when it doesn't happen you'll be pleasantly surprised. |
A refinement on this comment:
In my experience the changes are 'known' but not 'publicised'.
As mentioned above, the students have sussed the situation and done their travel bookings accordingly.
The admin are waiting on 'he/she who must be obeyed' to make the announcement.
Working out the class rescheduling is another matter. Sometimes it seems quite arbitrary as to which weekday classes are to be moved to the preceding and which to the following weekend. |
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canrun30
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I'm certainly not arguing with anyone here...just sort of thinking out loud...but if I have SIX hours of classes on Monday and SIX hours of classes on Friday, how on earth would I be able to re-schedule all of these? Ok, I understand an hour on Friday afternoon, but I just don't understand logistics-wise how this would all work. I'm NOT doing anything that's outside of my paid teaching hours.
Any suggestions? |
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johntpartee
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| I'm NOT doing anything that's outside of my paid teaching hours |
If that's your bottom line, any suggestions would be moot. |
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NoBillyNO
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Don't reschedule unless instructed to do so. National holidays are not within your power and whether or not students get an extra day off in a row is not your concern. Do what is best for you in your present situation.
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| "Bad teacher, bad teacher...the other teachers make up the classes!" |
China is not a popularity contest and other teachers may have other agendas... just be sure to avoid the student suggestion as they have a job to do and so do you and it is unlikely you were hired for logistics or scheduling. |
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teenoso
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If you teach at a Uni , and work 6 hours on monday and 6 on friday , how many total hours do you have? (this semester, so far, I have 12 in total). So maybe you are free on another week day?
Make up classes take place outside regular work days , but you are not 'working extra' if you do the scheduled make-up classes, or if you reschedule them.
I don't understand your original concern that you would be somehow working unpaid. This is not the case. |
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A593186
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Everyone complaining has forgotten the basic concept here that is more important. The fact of the matter is, that the LAW regarding government stipulated holidays dictates the necessity of making up those days. You can easily find the actual labor law online and read how Sat/Sun before or after a scheduled holiday is required, again, by law, to be done. Thus, suck it up and go work as the law requires you to do.
My god. |
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canrun30
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I am not required to teach on Saturdays or Sundays, even with the holiday. The hours are not "officially" made up. Three days off, that's it.
I work at one of the joint-venture universities; it's a different breed altogether. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| A593186 wrote: |
Everyone complaining has forgotten the basic concept here that is more important. The fact of the matter is, that the LAW regarding government stipulated holidays dictates the necessity of making up those days. You can easily find the actual labor law online and read how Sat/Sun before or after a scheduled holiday is required, again, by law, to be done. Thus, suck it up and go work as the law requires you to do.
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The law does not require that these days be used, but it does does stipulate they are the legally accepted days to use. Like Canrun, my contract states work only Monday-Friday. The law does not change the days of the week.
Personally, in your situation, I would work on a way to rearrange, not for the students, but for myself. How the classes are made up is entirely dependent on the nature of the course, so I can understand you might not want to do this. |
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teenoso
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So, if you are not required to teach saturday or sunday , why not just shift the monday classes to the sunday before , and the friday classes to a day later (saturday).
Same hours , same pay , it just gives you and the students 5 days holiday (monday to friday) . Or do you object to working on a saturday/sunday on principle? I know some people do. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| teenoso wrote: |
So, if you are not required to teach saturday or sunday , why not just shift the monday classes to the sunday before , and the friday classes to a day later (saturday).
Same hours , same pay , it just gives you and the students 5 days holiday (monday to friday) . Or do you object to working on a saturday/sunday on principle? I know some people do. |
Personally, I never would reschedule to the weekends, because those are the two days, no matter what, I am going to relax. I could, depending on subject and class arrangements make them up during lunch periods and evening periods the week before (some of the classes if possible) and the week or weeks after.
Unless I am doing manual labour, which I have done, I will not work more than 5 days a week. I get tired and have poor performance.
Canrun, what subject do you teach? |
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LarssonCrew
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Just tell the students you are rescheduling those days, then after the holiday forget about it.
If you get asked by your FAO say you rescheduled classes, then on the first class back tell your students you will find a time at a later date.
Bang. Problem solved. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
Just tell the students you are rescheduling those days, then after the holiday forget about it.
If you get asked by your FAO say you rescheduled classes, then on the first class back tell your students you will find a time at a later date.
Bang. Problem solved. |
Depends where you work, for me that would lose me my job for next year. Actual rescheduling would be fine. |
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canrun30
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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We're not required to re-scheduled classes. Some teachers do. I told them I may 'accidentally' misplace the attendance roster on Monday and Friday next week. All are very content.
Bang. Problem solved.  |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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We're not required to re-scheduled classes. Some teachers do. I told them I may 'accidentally' misplace the attendance roster on Monday and Friday next week. All are very content.
Bang. Problem solved. |
Good luck on attendance for the rest of the term though  |
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