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jimpellow
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 Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:17 am Post subject: Z-Visas In Third Countries Post September 1st? |
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| Has anybody had any success (not hearsay) in obtaining a new Z-visa from a third country since the new entry/exit regulations went into effect September 1st? If so, where? Everything I have read from a direct source has been negative so far, including Hong Kong. Thank you |
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ippollite
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| Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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I guess that answers my question then... I was gonna ask if its possible to get the Z-visa (for UK passport holder) in Thailand or Laos.
But just in case theres some good news (really dont want to have to mail it back to the uk)... |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW, here is what a pretty with it immigration lawyer on China says about it, "Right now, there’s some upheaval in China visa law and policy, given the new statute and regulations. Some PRC embassies and consulates are less willing then in the past to issue Z visas to third country nationals. This includes the Hong Kong Office of the Commissioner of the PRC Ministry of Foreign Affairs. |
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sui jin
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I got my Z visa in the first week of September in HK.
I thought the new visa regulations came in back in July, not in September.(?) |
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:03 am Post subject: |
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hey everybody! if you're going to collect data on successfully getting
work visas in third countries, please include:
country and city
date
your citizenship
what type of visa you have in said third country
province and city in china providing the documents |
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sui jin
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I was in Shanghai on an L visa in the summer, found a job in Jiangsu Province, and did the health check in Shanghai in August.
I collected the 'work permit' and invitation letter from my employer first week in September, headed to HK , handed in the passport and docs on Thursday and got the visa back on Friday , and then crossed back into mainland China on Friday afternoon. |
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sui jin
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| I am a UK citizen |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| sui jin wrote: |
I got my Z visa in the first week of September in HK.
I thought the new visa regulations came in back in July, not in September.(?) |
This is the first major overhaul of Chinese visa/immigration since 1986, which was based on the Soviet model. It was first passed last year with July 1st and September 1st being the implementation dates. September 1st was for entry/exit requirements.
There is nothing in the WRITTEN law that states a third country consulate cannot grant any kind of visa. But from what I have read, how the new regulations are interpreted in the consulates abroad comes into play. Also, Chinese law has regulations not disclosed which now may be imposing stricter restrictions. The public never sees these, which a non democracy has every right to do.
These unwritten rules may also be where all these new demands for the z-visa are stemming from, which right now are being enforced selectively and differently at a provincial level.
Good to see some people have pulled it off. Disconcerting in that I have read of others who have not. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| sui jin wrote: |
Ok, I was in Shanghai on an L visa in the summer, found a job in Jiangsu Province, and did the health check in Shanghai in August.
I collected the 'work permit' and invitation letter from my employer first week in September, headed to HK , handed in the passport and docs on Thursday and got the visa back on Friday , and then crossed back into mainland China on Friday afternoon. |
HK does seem to be 'province-specific'. Another poster mentioned that Zs won't be issued in HK for jobs in Guangdong.
Why there is a split is beyond me  |
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Skeletor
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:13 pm Post subject: Hong Kong |
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| Does Hong Kong still issue Z visas for Beijing? |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Hong Kong |
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| Skeletor wrote: |
| Does Hong Kong still issue Z visas for Beijing? |
No personal experience, but I think your chances are slim to none these days. Beijing now seems to insist that it is done from your home country. And Hong Kong seems to be issuing less and less Z visas overall.
Have you done the criminal background yet for Beijing? Seems very strict and quite a lot of requirements that would probably necessitate that you need to return your home country. |
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Toast
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| ippollite wrote: |
| I was gonna ask if its possible to get the Z-visa (for UK passport holder) in Thailand or Laos. |
Phnom Penh *used to be* easy. No proof of Cambodian residency visa required. Not sure about these days though. Would also depend what province you're headed to in China. |
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