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ejvande



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:48 am    Post subject: Question about Saudi Arabia Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'll be graduating from college in May of 2014 with a Bachelor of Arts in English studies, and I'll have my TESOL certification (which I'll be getting online outside of school) by that time as well. I'd love to teach in Saudi Arabia for a year once I graduate because I've always wanted to experience that culture, and I want to get my ESL feet wet. Most of the job postings have fairly high degree and experience requirements, but I was wondering if I'd potentially be able to land a position even though I don't have experience. Any thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks for the help!
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before the ME experts get here, just a note about online certs. They're not accepted in many parts of the world, because they don't include an element of supervised practice teaching with feedback on how you've done by experienced teachers.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ejvande wrote:
I'll be graduating from college in May of 2014 with a Bachelor of Arts in English studies, and I'll have my TESOL certification (which I'll be getting online outside of school) by that time as well. I'd love to teach in Saudi Arabia for a year once I graduate because I've always wanted to experience that culture, and I want to get my ESL feet wet. Most of the job postings have fairly high degree and experience requirements, but I was wondering if I'd potentially be able to land a position even though I don't have experience. Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Frankly, Saudi Arabia is not the country to head to as a TEFL newbie, especially if your goal is to "experience the culture" and "get your feet wet" as a new teacher. But that aside, the bigger issue will be your lack of both experience as well as a TEFL cert that's acceptable to employers in this region (e.g., a CELTA, SIT TESOL, Trinity CertTESOL, or even a generic, 120-hour onsite TEFL course that included supervised practice teaching with real students). Seriously, with such low qualifications, your only option will be employment with a sketchy contracting company, if at all. Plenty about these outfits on the Saudi forum. I doubt that's the kind of cultural and first-time teaching experience you're seeking.

You asked about suggestions... Generally, newbies go to Asia (e.g., Korea) for their first teaching job. Once they've built up a few years of experience, they head to the Kingdom. Even then, that might entail getting a TEFL-related MA as well.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally speaking, Middle East employers do NOT recognize online certs. In some countries in this part of the world, even online MAs are not recognized.

I agree with Nomad... this is not the part of the world for newbies to the field or to overseas teaching. I used to suggest that those who were seriously interesting in experiencing 'Middle Eastern culture' head to Egypt... but with the situation there, I now recommend Morocco.

With your lack of credentials and experience, you could only get the employers that no one wants to teach for... because they are abusive. One doesn't want to be with an abusive employer in a country like Saudi Arabia because it can be difficult to get out if you need to...

VS
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DLIguy



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.K., you two! You've been standing in front of the Arabian Peninsula ATM long enough! It's time to let untrained newbies at some of that easy money! Laughing Rolling Eyes

Seriously! Working in Saudi Arabia is like a walk in the park.

Central Park.

During Superstorm Sandy.
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Gulezar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:26 am    Post subject: Saudi, Male or female version Reply with quote

DLIguy wrote:


Seriously! Working in Saudi Arabia is like a walk in the park.

Central Park.

During Superstorm Sandy.


And maybe DLIguy is a guy. Saudi can be tough for anybody, but for a female and perhaps the first time out of country, it would be a real eye-opener.
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DLIguy



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Saudi, Male or female version Reply with quote

Gulezar wrote:
DLIguy wrote:


Seriously! Working in Saudi Arabia is like a walk in the park.

Central Park.

During Superstorm Sandy.


And maybe DLIguy is a guy. Saudi can be tough for anybody, but for a female and perhaps the first time out of country, it would be a real eye-opener.


I second that emotion...
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