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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: |
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trust me, if they are working in my office at Aramco and if your info is right VS, they will be paying tax  |
How is that? |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: |
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its cauze us 'mercans no english mo betta
reguards
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Nothing to do with this John it is because the American language is known as the *beep* language |
I agree Americans should call their language American and stop calling it English. Who gives a **** what NZ'ers and Limeys say about American.
Also don't like Americans? Then please show it by boycotting the internet. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| Sicklyman wishes to intimate to anyone who is interested that he is earning more than US$100,090 a year and is VERY RICH ! |
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Trips
Joined: 16 Sep 2013 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Sicklyman wishes to intimate to anyone who is interested that he is earning more than US$100,090 a year and is VERY RICH ! |
"Triùir a thig gun iarraidh – gaol, eud is eagal." |
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Trips
Joined: 16 Sep 2013 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
| sinee wrote: |
| johnslat wrote: |
its cauze us 'mercans no english mo betta
reguards
jhon |
Nothing to do with this John it is because the American language is known as the *beep* language |
I agree Americans should call their language American and stop calling it English. Who gives a **** what NZ'ers and Limeys say about American.
Also don't like Americans? Then please show it by boycotting the internet. |
Or by boycotting Dave and his site. You know...this one. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I repeat... it is only on the amount over the annual limit. So if they make $105K, they will only pay tax on the approximate $5K... which would be nominal - and complaints about it would make them look ridiculous.
VS |
I repeat... they are paying tax.
I, being a non-USAnian, am not.
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So that American making $105K would pay taxes of $51. Big deal... The number of TEFLers in this situation is miniscule. I'd estimate less than 1% worldwide. Less than the cost of going out for dinner and drinks at a fancy restaurant. In other words even less of an issue to be discussed than the moronic topic of which dialect of English is "best."
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Trips
Joined: 16 Sep 2013 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
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I repeat... it is only on the amount over the annual limit. So if they make $105K, they will only pay tax on the approximate $5K... which would be nominal - and complaints about it would make them look ridiculous.
VS |
I repeat... they are paying tax.
I, being a non-USAnian, am not.
sweet
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So that American making $105K would pay taxes of $51. Big deal... The number of TEFLers in this situation is miniscule. I'd estimate less than 1% worldwide. Less than the cost of going out for dinner and drinks at a fancy restaurant. In other words even less of an issue to be discussed than the moronic topic of which dialect of English is "best."
VS |
I think the point is that the salary is high, not that the taxes are. |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013 Posts: 930
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Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| "Triùir a thig gun iarraidh – gaol, eud is eagal." |
indeed! |
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TheFellow
Joined: 31 Oct 2012 Posts: 34
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Update:
I've just started teaching (the higher level track) at Aramco.
Here are my thoughts so far;
1. The workload and prep is extremely easy, probably the easiest teaching load I've ever had but I'm getting paid a lot more than previous jobs. We don't have to make or mark any tests. The only thing we need to grade are assignments (submissions), which doesn't take long.
2. My class sizes are much smaller than previous universities I've taught at. My classes now are 8, 12, 10, 20, 21 students. A piece of cake! Everything is laid out by admin in terms of tests (prepared and marked by Aramco), curriculum etc. You are of course free to add your own materials.
3. Some teachers have problems with their students and classes. So far, I'm developing good relationships with all of my classes and I actually enjoy teaching each class! Be firm but fair and if you're a confident teacher with a strong classroom presence but also possess an ability to get on with them, you will do more than fine. Any teacher who tries to look down their nose on the students, will have serious problems! Manage your classes yourself and don't go crying to admin or you will look weak.
4. For anyone moving to work at Dhahran and looking to bring a wife and kids, I strongly recommend you move as close as possible to Al Rashid Mall. Then your wife will be free to go to the mall, to eat/grab a coffee/go to the supermarket, etc, when you're at work.
5. Yes (but what's new overseas) there are admin issues, with frequent schedule changes, etc. Some people seem to get very worked up about it, I don't! As mentioned, prep isn't difficult and too time consuming and you have 3-4 hours free time, every day to prep, so I don't see schedule changes as a biggie.
6. Some of the materials aren't great but as I said above, you do have freedom to add your own materials. Again, for an experienced and confident teacher, no biggie!
7. So far so good with my contractor but let's see what the future holds! I've heard of some issues with every contractor, so none of them are perfect but I haven't heard of any major issues yet.
Overall, I'm really happy so far. Early days but so far so good.
That's about all for now, if anyone has any questions fire away.  |
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Trips
Joined: 16 Sep 2013 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| TheFellow wrote: |
Update:
I've just started teaching (the higher level track) at Aramco.
Here are my thoughts so far;
1. The workload and prep is extremely easy, probably the easiest teaching load I've ever had but I'm getting paid a lot more than previous jobs. We don't have to make or mark any tests. The only thing we need to grade are assignments (submissions), which doesn't take long.
2. My class sizes are much smaller than previous universities I've taught at. My classes now are 8, 12, 10, 20, 21 students. A piece of cake! Everything is laid out by admin in terms of tests (prepared and marked by Aramco), curriculum etc. You are of course free to add your own materials.
3. Some teachers have problems with their students and classes. So far, I'm developing good relationships with all of my classes and I actually enjoy teaching each class! Be firm but fair and if you're a confident teacher with a strong classroom presence but also possess an ability to get on with them, you will do more than fine. Any teacher who tries to look down their nose on the students, will have serious problems! Manage your classes yourself and don't go crying to admin or you will look weak.
4. For anyone moving to work at Dhahran and looking to bring a wife and kids, I strongly recommend you move as close as possible to Al Rashid Mall. Then your wife will be free to go to the mall, to eat/grab a coffee/go to the supermarket, etc, when you're at work.
5. Yes (but what's new overseas) there are admin issues, with frequent schedule changes, etc. Some people seem to get very worked up about it, I don't! As mentioned, prep isn't difficult and too time consuming and you have 3-4 hours free time, every day to prep, so I don't see schedule changes as a biggie.
6. Some of the materials aren't great but as I said above, you do have freedom to add your own materials. Again, for an experienced and confident teacher, no biggie!
7. So far so good with my contractor but let's see what the future holds! I've heard of some issues with every contractor, so none of them are perfect but I haven't heard of any major issues yet.
Overall, I'm really happy so far. Early days but so far so good.
That's about all for now, if anyone has any questions fire away.  |
Can you tell me about your interview and the process after you received your offer? |
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DLIguy

Joined: 29 Jun 2013 Posts: 167 Location: Being led around by the nose...by you-know-who!
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Update:
I've just started teaching (the higher level track) at Aramco.
Overall, I'm really happy so far. Early days but so far so good. |
I hope that all goes well for you. If you're NOT unbalanced, you'll do well. However, if you've already got one toe over the line...well...
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| I escaped Korea a while back and came to Saudi. There are issues, but nothing that is so horrible I want to leave. I moved into a hotel apt that has 3 rooms, not including the BR. It is paid for, I also get a taxi stipend. I double and triple up on taxi's to save money. So far, no major problems here. I can complain a little, but not to much........ |
Then, 25 short days later...
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| BULLSHIT! The teachers are working 8-2 this week and start break next week. Teachers who are staying in Saudi will get paid, those who are leaving the country will forfeit a week of pay. They were warned ahead of time, I'm not exactly sure of the reasons why. Something to do with the contact w/KSU? |
This was just prior to his public meltdown...
RIP! |
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TheFellow
Joined: 31 Oct 2012 Posts: 34
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:16 am Post subject: |
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DLI guy - what's your agenda fella? I gave an honest update of life with Aramco so far. Then you post a load of gibberish from presumably another poster.
Best way to be unhappy in Saudi is to hang with the negative people - those people would be negative and miserable no matter where they work and live.
Trips - know your stuff on grammar for the interview.
I was made an offer straight after my interview. I was also paid 400 usd in cash within 30 minutes after the interview. (travel expenses)
I had to finish my old job (interview was in March), which ended back at the end of June, so it took longer for me. Then I took a vacation and arrived home just as Ramadan started, so the Saudi embassy was closed. Once I handed in my paperwork for the visa, I was on the plane almost 4 weeks later.
I'm very happy with the package I was offered. Salary is based on interview performance, qualifications, experience, salary at previous job - which needs to be proved with pay stubs. |
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babur
Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 178 Location: Dammam, Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:53 am Post subject: rashid mall!!! |
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| 4. For anyone moving to work at Dhahran and looking to bring a wife and kids, I strongly recommend you move as close as possible to Al Rashid Mall. Then your wife will be free to go to the mall, to eat/grab a coffee/go to the supermarket, etc, when you're at work. |
Wouldn't recommend the area. There's a red light district in case you've not noticed. Lived here for 2 years. If you've kids, get a place near the corniche. Cheaper to live. Panda, Tamami .... No need for oxygen masks there either. |
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TheFellow
Joined: 31 Oct 2012 Posts: 34
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:57 am Post subject: Re: rashid mall!!! |
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^ Each to their own but I'm happy here.......as are others.
As for the red light district - haven't seen it but in any case it doesn't matter because wives wouldn't be going alone at night time.
Thanks for the advice though - will check out your recommendation for sure.
Cheers. |
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DLIguy

Joined: 29 Jun 2013 Posts: 167 Location: Being led around by the nose...by you-know-who!
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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DLI guy - what's your agenda fella? I gave an honest update of life with Aramco so far. Then you post a load of gibberish from presumably another poster.
Best way to be unhappy in Saudi is to hang with the negative people - those people would be negative and miserable no matter where they work and live.
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My agenda is that you've got a good, realistic attitude from the get-go and not speaking about just having "escaped" somewhere. That poster removed his first posts, but they were quite negative. Others had posted that with an attitude like his, Saudi would be bad.
He proved that prediction.
Sorry that you took my post differently. |
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