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kevinpcullen



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:42 pm    Post subject: Acceptable offer? Reply with quote
A big name school in Krakow. 35 zl/45 minutes GROSS.

Am I right in thinking this is a bit outrageous?
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the current climate for schools, not really. Most of the big names are struggling - I spotted that Profi Lingua have started offering second language classes for free to entice people, for instance.
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kevinpcullen



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, you quickly divined which school I'm speaking of. After reviewing the contract and all the strange stipulations in it, I'm very, very hesitant to accept it. I'm in Poland not to get rich, but to work on some personal projects. Just wanted to do some teaching on the side to get out of the house and have a bit of a normal social life. However, if that basically means signing my soul away for a meager pittance, I'm not sure it's worth it.
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kevinpcullen wrote:
Well, you quickly divined which school I'm speaking of. After reviewing the contract and all the strange stipulations in it, I'm very, very hesitant to accept it.


I wouldn't worry much about the stipulations - they're very unlikely to enforce anything in it.

The offer is not entirely surprising - I don't know what's happened this year, but last year, I know they slashed wages across the board and made it clear that they simply didn't have the money to offer. I know they have some schools in very very expensive locations - it's likely that with schools popping up in almost every district of every town, they simply don't have the money to offer much more.

I'd go back and ask for 40zl/45 minutes - they probably will agree.
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kevinpcullen



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The best they said they could probably do is 38 zl for 45. However, after ZUS and taxes, it nets out to be around 24 zl per 45 (as they're only offering me 12 hours a week).

I'd be better off just doing privates.
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Janek



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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delphian-domine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kevinpcullen wrote:
The best they said they could probably do is 38 zl for 45. However, after ZUS and taxes, it nets out to be around 24 zl per 45 (as they're only offering me 12 hours a week).

I'd be better off just doing privates.


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I didn't notice the GROSS in big letters. That changes things, and I'm shocked they've gone with such a low offer. It's almost certainly due to the fact that Krakow is flooded with teachers - they've got no reason to offer anything reasonable because the place is full of people who will do it for very little so they can put photos on Facebook with "omg teachin in Krakow" written on them.
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kevinpcullen



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What I don't understand is, though, for the abundance of teachers here, why is this school practically begging me in every way to work for them (aside from actually offering a reasonable rate)?

If I were some unqualified noob, this would probably be a typical offer. But I'm CELTA certified, hold an MA in English and have quite a few years of experience in Europe. When it comes to teaching, I consider myself a professional and would like to be treated as such. I let them know as much during the contract offer which is when they were kind enough to bump to 35 zl gross up to 38 zl gross.

Crazy market it is here. Luckily I can afford to dally along until someone offers a reasonable rate.
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Master Shake



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